Fox News tiring of Trump?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by str8line, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM.

  1. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    **** Trump but I seriously think this anti-Trumpism is becoming a huge mental disorder. I hate to sound rude and hateful but it's true. It's some stupid new ******** every single day.
     
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  2. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    Anti-Trumpism? Can you ****ing read? The dude is a nut. This thread is about Fox calling out his "bizarre tirade". I take humbrage to you trying to frame this as my or anyone elses "disorder". Or are you trolling?
     
  3. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand this mentality.

    The president should represent everything but being a troll. This isn't a movie like Hotshots..
     
  4. elonDusk314

    elonDusk314 New Member

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    God, I love Trump. And I love the people who hate him even more.
     
  5. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    What is it that you love about him?

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
     
  6. elonDusk314

    elonDusk314 New Member

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    The economy.
    Immigration reforms were/are needed. Chinese economic manipulation/ intellectual theft is being addressed. Personal liberties are being protected. Isis, dead. The economy is strong. I’m a fan of delegation over reorientation results are what matter.
    All the while, I get to see comments comparing his administration to fascism/nazism which give me a good laugh.

    edit: I shouldn’t start arguments, we’re all on the same side. Go Jazz
     
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  7. Jazzta

    Jazzta Well-Known Member

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    Has it ever happened?
     
  8. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Literally none of this is happening. Even the “strong economy” is showing significant signs of weakness. The feds are believed to be slashing rates soon. Is that a sign of a strong economy? After how many trillions were added to the country’s debt to temporarily juice the economy for a year?

    People who believe this way need to re-evaluate where they’re getting their information from.
     
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  9. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    You know, when you copy and paste something, academic honesty says you must credit your source. Here it is for you: https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

    I'll leave it to others to fact check those items and/or put them in context, if they would like.
     
  10. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Academic elitist...
     
  11. One Brow

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    Goosing the already-strong economy he was left, while increasing the debt, with was good? Detentions centers where children are removed their parents (and sometimes kept in the center) is "reform"? Chinese manipulation and theft has been slowed? Personal liberties are being protected by putting amnesty claimants in detention? ISIL is still around in Syria, and various places in Asia, Africa, and Europe. All the while, Trump is threatening to defy court orders on the census.

    Laugh away. What's better than being Trump's chump?
     
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  12. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    No I 100% think it's obsessive compulsive behavior. Never in my life have I seen a demographic so amazingly infatuated about a single person. I ****ing hate the idiot myself but I don't need to completely obsess about a person's every word. It is not healthy.
     
  13. elonDusk314

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    1. A major reason we’re in a trade war with China is because of said Chinese infringements. I said it’s being addressed, it is “literally” being addressed. 2. What metrics would you use to describe our economy? GDP growth, unemployment, stocks, wage growth? No you choose fed rates. I think if that’s your only evidence to come to the conclusion of a weak economy you’re looking thru biased eyes. I’m all for lowering rates. 3. Yep debt is out of control, it’s building for how many presidential terms? Beloved healthcare didn’t help did it? Trump hasn’t either. 4. I may be wrong about ISIS. 5. It’s easy to challenge news sources. I try to get it from a variety, I hope you do to.
     
  14. elonDusk314

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    The economy was not strong the way Obama left it. Immigration reform was a non topic before Trump brought it up. Now it’s on the forefront, there has been progress and more progress outside of promises like a “wall” need to happen. There were issues on the border far before Trump. Chinese intellectual property theft is a major reason for the trade war, I’d say it’s being addressed. For people in tech, it’s an important issue.
    Personal liberties for American citizens are being protected, yes, and laws are being enforced(which is actually the chief responsibility of the president). If you don’t like the law elect congressmen to change it. The citizenship question on the census is a little extreme but since when is that unconstitutional?
    I vote based off of the political ideology I’ve researched at length, Trump checks a lot of boxes for reform I would like. I love hypocrites, there are some few leftists that tend to be hypocrites and it makes me laugh, it comes on both sides. Excuse me for enjoying myself.
     
  15. One Brow

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    Except, it was, and had had steady, slow growth for some six years.

    Really, you never heard of DACA?

    Addressed how? I would love to hear that (with sources, please).


    Americans have the same personal liberties they have always had. Although, the criminal justice reform (First Step) was a positive.

    When SCOTUS says it is (I just read that Trump has backed off adding the question, which is also good).

    What has Trump reformed in a positive way? What aspect of Washington is less corrupt than it was 3 years ago?

    I don't mind if you enjoy yourself at all.
     
  16. elonDusk314

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    https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/301 Report Update.pdf
    Abstract: "On August 14, 2017, the President instructed the U.S. Trade Representative to determine under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 19741 whether to investigate China’s laws, policies, practices, or actions that may be unreasonable or discriminatory and that may be harming American intellectual property rights, innovation, or technology development. " Trade war began in summer 2018 I believe.
    and a quick google search https://www.dailyfx.com/forex/funda...ntellectual-Property-at-Heart-of-Dispute.html
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...us-and-china-remain-so-far-apart-intellectual questionable source, maybe
    https://markets.businessinsider.com...e-war-major-sticking-points-2019-5-1028215587

    Agreed criminal justice was a nice step. I'm an advocate for guns, lower taxes and less government intervention. In fact most government intervention I view as unethical, you can see why I would value deregulation and protection of guns. I believe my love of Trump was being questioned not my philosophy.

    It's valid to question the SCOTUS, look at their track record. I already told you I'm not necessarily a fan of the census question. I am glad he's not pushing it.

    Washington will always be corrupt, government is easily corruptible. "Draining the swamp" is just a phrase to get votes, thats what politics is all about. I appreciate reduction of government powers.. Regulation, certainly, tangible tax cuts, progress on Obamacare, although 2016-18 was disappointing, etc. Basically laissez-faire is the dream. This response was exhausting, don't count on more thoughtful responses xD
     
  17. NPC D4617

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    I challenge you to answer this question truthfully.

    If a homeless man breaks into your house sleeps in your bed, eats your food, and refuses to leave. Are you a bad person for having thrown in a cage by way of calling the police, and they end up throwing him in jail?
     
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  18. Gameface

    Gameface All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    The United States of America is not a house. analogy fail
     
  19. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    But its not failed logic. Its a perfectly reasonable analogy.

    Only so many tax payers pay for things like school and police. If people come and take a share of that without contributing it is practically stealing from the people who have contributed to the pool of services.

    I get that these people turn into good workers and they eventually do contribute to the economy and its a good thing. But there still has to be order to be sure that happens. If there isnt a controlled flow of people and the system is overwhelmed before it adapts then the people who should have first rights to the goods get screwed over to some degree. Its no ones job to take care of somebody else. Also these people need to be documented to make sure they do contribute to pool of services, and not just take from them.

    This isnt inhumane to ask this of people. Its perfectly reasonable and decent. But nutcase bleeding heart liberals have zero concept of logic. So it turns into this **** show because they encourage these people to do this and not just do it the respectful way.
     
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  20. Gameface

    Gameface All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Rights to the goods?

    What kind of dirty ****ing socialist are you?

    We do not have "rights to the goods" as a benefit of citizenship.

    Yuck, go back to the Soviet Union.
     

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