Get off our plane! Now!

[Ron Mexico]

Do you think it would be a good idea for the airline to tell their customers when the next flight is when making the offer to the volunteers so that they are not surprised to be finding that they can't get on another plane until the next day?

Would that be to courteous of them?

They do. They also let them know in the offer that it was a hotel for the night and they could catch a flight the next day.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Exactly. Their profits increased each year. It can just come off of the increase in profit. That won't affect ticket prices.

Every government subsidizes their airlines.


Airlines funnel planes to hubs the hubs are where they typically overbook. There are so many delays and other problems flying that if hubs didnt overbook they might have planes that are almost empty because of missed connections. This allows airlines to also put you on the next flight if you missed your connection. Many people cancel their flights or buy flexible passes such as business people as well. Many many seats would go empty if they didnt overbook. Would you be willing to pay double for a ticket so that they are never overbooked? I would not be.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Is this 12B legit? Is this after all expenses? I thought airlines barely break even. If that.

Airlines are subsidized and most run on razer thin profits on many routes. That is why they overbook them otherwise they would lose a lot of money and airlines would stop flying to many areas and only travel to major airports.

 

[The Midnight]

Every government subsidizes their airlines.


Airlines funnel planes to hubs the hubs are where they typically overbook. There are so many delays and other problems flying that if hubs didnt overbook they might have planes that are almost empty because of missed connections. This allows airlines to also put you on the next flight if you missed your connection. Many people cancel their flights or buy flexible passes such as business people as well. Many many seats would go empty if they didnt overbook. Would you be willing to pay double for a ticket so that they are never overbooked? I would not be.

I don't know enough about the industry, and certainly don't have enough data to know whether there will be 'planes that are almost empty'. I find it hard to believe that would be the case, and it sounds like a convenient excuse for a policy that most other industries do not have.

 

[fishonjazz]

How about all the people that they had to lay off last decade when the price of fuel exploded, did you feel bad for them?

They could raise prices, less people would fly and fewer would work. Not exactly a win win

Or they could stop overbooking, not raise prices and only make a measly 10 billion instead of 12 billion. Poor airlines

 

[The Midnight]

Is this 12B legit? Is this after all expenses? I thought airlines barely break even. If that.

Here's what they made last (financial) year via Department of Transportation & CNN Money:

U.S. airlines raked in a profit of $25.6 billion last year, a 241% increase from 2014, according to the Department of Transportation.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/05/03/news/companies/airline-profits-2015/

 

[Ron Mexico]

Or they could stop overbooking, not raise prices and only make a measly 10 billion instead of 12 billion. Poor airlines

If they went for the profits route they would stop flying all the flights that dont make them money or only make them money because of overbooking. That means any non major airport would stop getting flights. This is why the government subsidizes them. SLC would cut down its flights to only a few places that are profitable.

Overbooking is good for the customer. They benefit more from it than the airlines.

 

[The Midnight]

If they went for the profits route they would stop flying all the flights that dont make them money or only make them money because of overbooking. That means any non major airport would stop getting flights. This is why the government subsidizes them. SLC would cut down its flights to only a few places that are profitable.

Overbooking is good for the customer. They benefit more from it than the airlines.

Do you have any more unsubstantiated claims?

 

[Ron Mexico]

I don't know enough about the industry, and certainly don't have enough data to know whether there will be 'planes that are almost empty'.

That makes a lot of sense.

Maybe you should look into it. Seems like you are just google things to support what you want your argument to be and not looking into it at all.

 

[The Midnight]

That makes a lot of sense.

Maybe you should look into it. Seems like you are just google things to support what you want your argument to be and not looking into it at all.

I doubt airlines make that sort of data available. It's commercially sensitive for one.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Do you have any more unsubstantiated claims?

I substantiated it already and within that same paragraph you posted. Do you like airlines having lower prices? Do you like having airlines fly to more locations? Do you like having better service on your plane? Why do you think the government subsidizes them? Why do you think they all overbook and have been for decades? Why do you think the government encouraged this model?

 

[fishonjazz]

If the numbers that one posted are true (25 billion in profits for one airline last year and an increase of 241% from 2014) then I think the airlines should be able to stop overbooking, reduce airfare prices and keep going to all the same locations they currently do. And still make billions in profits.