Go Warren!

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Imagine for a moment what I think is the most likely scenario for either Warren's or Bernie's healthcare plan moving through congress (assuming they have a non McConnell controlled Senate of course).

They don't have the votes to pass a Medicare for All bill that completely does away with private insurance. Which one of these candidates seems most willing to compromise on this to get a public option passed?

To me it's pretty clearly Warren. It would be kind of funny to see die hard Bernie supporter's heads explode if he did end up signing a "watered down" M4All though.

IDC if Bernie couldnt get it done. I know he'd at least try and fight.

Warren taking big corporate money and cozying up to the Clintons? lmao

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bottom line:

Do you want a technocracy? Vote for Warren.

Do you want a true democracy? Vote for Sanders.

 

[JazzMan4Life]

Kudos to @Gameface. This thread has sparked some of the best discussion in GD all off-season.

How do you all feel about the other candidates. Yang seems like a technocratic favorite and I really like Tulsi Gabbard. They don't have a realistic chance, but their ideas are worth discussing.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Kudos to @Gameface. This thread has sparked some of the best discussion in GD all off-season.

How do you all feel about the candidates. Yang seems like a technocratic favorite and I really like Tulsi Gabbard. They don't have a realistic chance, but their ideas are worth discussing.

I’ve noticed this too. He’s been killing it lately.

 

[JazzMan4Life]

the term single payer isn’t there. You realize that, yeah? If you’re missing out on the nuance, public option means everyone gets covered (technically); but the bureaucracy of administering multiple health care insurances is kept, meaning health care costs to the country continue to balloon. It’s a bad idea.

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my final post on this topic for now— heres Krystal Ball with some great Warren analysis recently:

enjoy

That video and Fox news sound very alike. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of the content, but the presenter sounds like any presenter you would see on Fox. I think it's the way they are reading off the prompter like it's an essay?

 

[Eminence]

I haven't paid much attention to Tulsi. What ideas is she putting out there that interest folks?

 

[Deleted member 848]

I feel like you're arguing semantics here. Medicare for all is a single payer proposal.

semantics she chooses to leave out?
She’s a lawyer, Zombie. Don’t kid yourself. She’s decidedly vague on her healthcare plan— it’s not an accident.
Just know when she backtracks, that there was signs all along the way

 

[Zombie]

semantics she chooses to leave out?
She’s a lawyer, Zombie. Don’t kid yourself. She’s decidedly vague on her healthcare plan— it’s not an accident.
Just know when she backtracks, that there was signs all along the way

Fair enough. I do think she needs to be a little more clear on how hard she'd be willing to fight for a single payer Medicare for all plan.

At the debates she seemed pretty insistent that she supported Bernie's plan, but time will tell.

 

[infection]

Man, what y'all doing getting so mad at one another? Relax friends

Yes, it’s definitely a different take. I wonder if this primary season could perhaps tear us apart. Not to fear, however, as Trump should single handedly reunite general discussion sometime late next year.

 

[Archie Moses]

I'm just wondering what @Gameface knows to say she's gonna win. I'm all for anyone but Trump, but you seem mighty confident. Am I missing something?

She just doesn't strike me as the next president. I hope I'm wrong. Really, I do.

 

[One Brow]

the term single payer isn’t there. You realize that, yeah? If you’re missing out on the nuance, public option means everyone gets covered (technically); but the bureaucracy of administering multiple health care insurances is kept, meaning health care costs to the country continue to balloon. It’s a bad idea.

That depends upon the implementation. LogGrad98 can tell you more about it than I (based on personal experience), but my understanding is that Germany (for example) relies on private (non-profit) administrators for its public healthcare.

 

[candrew]

Her rallies have already proven you wrong

The polls have proven you incredibly wrong.

Some pollsters have her behind Biden 15-20%