GOP Debate Threads

[Joe Bagadonuts]

FACT: If the Republicans nominate either Trump or Carson the next president will be a Democrat.

We all know which Democrat is getting the nomination. It is a woman who has become so comfortable lying to the American public that she believes there is nothing wrong with it. Amazingly, the media forgives/ignores her behavior again and again and again. If the Republicans can't find a candidate who can beat this unapologeticaly dishonest woman it will be a very sad day for this country.

 

[Stoked]

FACT: If the Republicans nominate either Trump or Carson the next president will be a Democrat.

Ugh, Trump or Clinton?

I might be sick.

 

[franklin]

I watched this debate. The moderators were absolute trash and were repeatedly booed by the crowd. They took personal shots at candidates and asked idiotic questions. These mods deserved 0 respect. Fantasy football? Comic book villains? Resign? Trash

Regardless of the clown car Rs on stage the CNBC mods were trash.

Where there some good questions? Yes. But the tone, wording and subject of many of these questions was absurd. The was an intentional hack job by CNBC. They even took jabs at candidates after their answers.

CNBC is consistently the most upright, honest, and unbiased media outlet in the world. They report to highly intellectual deep pockets who have no place for bias or spin. If you saw their questions as attacking it's most likely that you were offended by them not outright supporting your positions than it was any actual attacks on the candidates.

Your complaints seem to amount to nothing more than a panel challenging your guy(s) with real questions. That's what journalists are supposed to do. Also, who give a rats *** what a crowd full of conservatives boos? They're biased, they're going to boo anything that doesn't sing to their tune, just as you are right now.

 

[franklin]

I'll just post this again because I can't do a better job explaining it than Vox did.

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/28/9633420/ted-cruz-republican-debate

The moderators did NOT call Trump a comic book villain. The question started like this: "Mr. Trump, you have done very well in this campaign so far by promising to build another wall and make another country pay for it. Send 11 million people out of the country. Cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit." and ended by asking why his policies sound like "a comic book version of a presidential campaign."

That question is tough. But it is NOT an ad hominem. The reality is that those proposals, as accurately stated, are outlandish. This is poe's law territory, if you were going to write a ridiculous policy platform that's pie in the sky it would be hard to top that one. John Kasich was the only person on stage willing to say as much and the moderators were attacked for effectively holding a candidate's feet to the fire. Paradoxically, that's exactly what we usually ask journalists in these situations to do.

The full text of the question that was framed as "Can Ben Carson do math?" is here:



That is a substantive question. What is the fair way to say "your math doesn't add up, please explain?"

Not to mention how CNBC has helped build up Donald Trump by having him as a guest on their shows numerous times over the last several years. CNBC is always challenging but at the same time very respectful of their guests and let them get their opinion across.

I am glad you keep bringing up Vox. If you care to look that are other media sites calling it a train wreck.

In other words, the R candidates are all so wonky that they cannot stand up to real criticism from the best professional journalists who make a living day in and day out by questioning all sides of an idea.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

CNBC is consistently the most upright, honest, and unbiased media outlet in the world. They report to highly intellectual deep pockets who have no place for bias or spin. If you saw their questions as attacking it's most likely that you were offended by them not outright supporting your positions than it was any actual attacks on the candidates.

Your complaints seem to amount to nothing more than a panel challenging your guy(s) with real questions. That's what journalists are supposed to do. Also, who give a rats *** what a crowd full of conservatives boos? They're biased, they're going to boo anything that doesn't sing to their tune, just as you are right now.

You either didn't watch this particular debate or you do not believe that these candidates deserve professional treatment. The difference between the way this debate was moderated and the way the Democratic one was is impossible to miss.

 

[♪alt13]

Ugh, Trump or Clinton?

I might be sick.

Right? It's ****in insanity.

I never thought Clinton was electable in the general election but against these clowns she'll win easily.

 

[franklin]

You either didn't watch this particular debate or you do not believe that these candidates deserve professional treatment. The difference between the way this debate was moderated and the way the Democratic one was is impossible to miss.

CNBC hosted a democratic party debate?

 

[franklin]

To be fair, I think Elmo and the Sesame Street gang should host the republican party debates. In the name of fairness.

 

[Stoked]

CNBC is consistently the most upright, honest, and unbiased media outlet in the world. They report to highly intellectual deep pockets who have no place for bias or spin. If you saw their questions as attacking it's most likely that you were offended by them not outright supporting your positions than it was any actual attacks on the candidates.

Your complaints seem to amount to nothing more than a panel challenging your guy(s) with real questions. That's what journalists are supposed to do. Also, who give a rats *** what a crowd full of conservatives boos? They're biased, they're going to boo anything that doesn't sing to their tune, just as you are right now.

Interupting, rude comments, attacks, biased question asking, arguing and not being able to control the debate encompasses far more than asking tough questions. It doesn't matter what their rep is. They were terrible modding this debate.

But terms like "your guy(s)" is intentionally misleading. Screw the Rs.

You're ignoring all that in an attempt to pick a fight. Sad to see you're back to me with your shenanigans. I wont play, enjoy.

 

[Stoked]

Right? It's ****in insanity.

I never thought Clinton was electable in the general election but against these clowns she'll win easily.

I think 1 or 2 might have a shot but she would have a field day with most of them. Like Bush, Trump, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum...

 

[magic]

I'll just post this again because I can't do a better job explaining it than Vox did.

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/28/9633420/ted-cruz-republican-debate

The moderators did NOT call Trump a comic book villain. The question started like this: "Mr. Trump, you have done very well in this campaign so far by promising to build another wall and make another country pay for it. Send 11 million people out of the country. Cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit." and ended by asking why his policies sound like "a comic book version of a presidential campaign."

So Trump is a super hero instead? Either way, the moderator said he was comic book character because of his plan proposals. The fact that you spelled it out and still cant't see that this is attack journalism just confirms your incredible bias.

And you use Vox as your news source. LOL.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Dems will win against any of the GOP crop with absolute ease. Reps are losing their centralist runners, which simply equates to not being able to land swing votes. Whether it's Hillary or Sanders, GOP needs to nuke itself and start from scratch. The whole Paul Ryan fiasco goes to show how extreme they're becoming.


Not a single candidate possesses the charisma to get swing votes. Christie is a piece of ****. Cruz has the likability of a Hitler youth. Trump? Lol. Carson is a ****ing idiot. Bush may have been a decent candidate to win over undecided voters, but we've all seen the dumpster-fire that his campaign has become.

Then you have Rubio, who maybe has a small, small chance-- until you realize that his policies are far too conservative for 2015. He'll lose, just like the others. Romney woulda mopped the floor with this crew. Centralist, charismatic, squeaky-clean record.