Its Time to Tank

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think based on on/off splits Vando might be the guy that we'd be somewhat shocked was hurting us more than he's helping us. The defensive splits are shocking on him.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Kelly Olynyk is one of our 3 best players. Yeah, his individual defense can be atrocious at times, but him, Conley, and Lauri together are a super high IQ offensive domination trio.

That's what really sucks about the inevitable tank where we trade KO/Mike, it's going to make life rough on Lauri having to play next to the lower IQ players

KO is not one of our 3 best players. He’s not better than Conley/Lauri/Clarkson/Kessler right off the bat.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don’t really think so. I could be wrong but KO has been so bad defensively it’s hard to really be a net positive when you’re that bad. I like Dok, he fouls a little too much but I like him enough to be a backup center. It’s not like Kessler is getting a ton of minutes anyways in that position.

I think Dok would get cooked and really drag down the offense. He's fine in a game or two here and there... he's also not likely to stay healthy. Replacing KO's 28 minutes a night with 14 more from Walker and 14 from Dok would really hurt the offense imo. And again the depth thing is important. If we trade KO and Walker misses 10 games then you are losing a lot.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think Dok would get cooked and really drag down the offense. He's fine in a game or two here and there... he's also not likely to stay healthy. Replacing KO's 28 minutes a night with 14 more from Walker and 14 from Dok would really hurt the offense imo. And again the depth thing is important. If we trade KO and Walker misses 10 games then you are losing a lot.

It’s a trade off we’d be much better defensively.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I think based on on/off splits Vando might be the guy that we'd be somewhat shocked was hurting us more than he's helping us. The defensive splits are shocking on him.

Exactly.

 

[fishonjazz]

KO is not one of our 3 best players. He’s not better than Conley/Lauri/Clarkson/Kessler right off the bat.

Beasley too. Sexton too.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think based on on/off splits Vando might be the guy that we'd be somewhat shocked was hurting us more than he's helping us. The defensive splits are shocking on him.

That passes the eye test to me.

 

[HermanG]

I think based on on/off splits Vando might be the guy that we'd be somewhat shocked was hurting us more than he's helping us. The defensive splits are shocking on him.

Lmao I went to check those splits for last 4 games and I have never seen anything like this.

Lauri hasnt played all that great in the 4 losses, but our ratings with him on the court are 122.6 (ORtg) and 113.0 (DRtg) and off are 98.0 (ORtg) and 149.0 (DRtg).

Its such a small sample that its badly skewed, but I think it does reveal that he has had a lot of gravity.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Lmao I went to check those splits for last 4 games and I have never seen anything like this.
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Lauri hasnt played all that great in the 4 losses, but our ratings with him on the court are 122.6 (ORtg) and 113.0 (DRtg) and off are 98.0 (ORtg) and 149.0 (DRtg).

Its such a small sample that its badly skewed, but I think it does reveal that he has had a lot of gravity.

Also, Beasley not only fell off a cliff after his hot streak, he's still falling. I can see him there, far below, a tiny dot screaming "I can make my next shot!! I can make my next shot!"

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It’s a trade off we’d be much better defensively.

IDK... Doke is big and all but he's generally fairly lost on a basketball court. He's also prone to being cooked in space. I don't think the defense would be enough to offset the offensive loss.

BTW I am big on stretch 5s... so I likely see KO's impact as much higher than you do. Stretch 5s are kind of a cheat code on offense. He's low volume as a scorer but I think he's high impact.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also, Beasley not only fell off a cliff after his hot streak, he's still falling. I can see him there, far below, a tiny dot screaming "I can make my next shot!! I can make my next shot!"

Malik may low key be our worst perimeter defender... its 100% eye test on my end but man he gets blown by a lot it seems.

 

[stitches]

The time to tank was from the very start. And just as I expected - getting rid off Conley and a few of the other vets would have taken us a long way towards the path to Wemby...

This whole underdog team winning was cute and all, but what did we really win? A bunch of meaningless games that noone will remember in 2 years... We need to lose and lose a ton. Like... YESTERDAY.