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Its Time to Tank

I'm fairly certain that if you swapped out Kessler's pre Christmas minutes with Doke or even a Tony Bradley, we would have lost more games. The bench he was anchoring at that point was very good.

At this point I am just as confident in our big man development as I am a wide open Sexton corner 3 which is straight money.
 
I also think that our brass greatly underestimated the value of Lauri and Walker. It would be really awesome for our future if they saw clearly what we were getting, but I really doubt it.

They likely saw us as a bottom 6 team. Just about everyone else did too.
 
framer said:
I also think that our brass greatly underestimated the value of Lauri and Walker. It would be really awesome for our future if they saw clearly what we were getting, but I really doubt it.

They likely saw us as a bottom 6 team. Just about everyone else did too.
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Before the season started... if I had told you and everyone else here the Jazz were either 10-3 or 3-10 in our first 13 games and I'd give you a million dollars if you got the right answer... what percentage of folks would have picked 3-10? Consider how hard the schedule was to start the year.
 
framer said:
I also think that our brass greatly underestimated the value of Lauri and Walker. It would be really awesome for our future if they saw clearly what we were getting, but I really doubt it.

They likely saw us as a bottom 6 team. Just about everyone else did too.
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Or maybe the Jazz arent actually tanking.....

For the 1000000th time, if they really wanted to tank, they would have sold off Clarkson/KO for 2nd round picks. Winning isnt the priority, but they havent prioritized losing either.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Or maybe the Jazz arent actually tanking.....

For the 1000000th time, if they really wanted to tank, they would have sold off Clarkson/KO for 2nd round picks. Winning isnt the priority, but they havent prioritized losing either.
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No I think they are stoked about what happened. I am just not positive they planned it that way.
 
framer said:
No I think they are stoked about what happened. I am just not positive they planned it that way.
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I doubt there is any actual plan other than acquire as many 1st round assets as possible without trading players you want long-term.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Or maybe the Jazz arent actually tanking.....

For the 1000000th time, if they really wanted to tank, they would have sold off Clarkson/KO for 2nd round picks. Winning isnt the priority, but they havent prioritized losing either.
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It’s nice to have a solid foundation to start with, at least. Even if we’re picking late lottery, there will be good players available. Just need to pick one. A talented rookie (or three) will be coming into a great situation.
 
I think the best evidence that tanking is primarily about losing is that those who most identify with "team tank" are generally obsessed with the Jazz throwing away their best opportunity this year by winning too much. If tanking, in the common vernacular, was just a synonym for rebuilding, we wouldn't see so many people so anxious about the Jazz not losing enough.
 
idiot said:
I think the best evidence that tanking is primarily about losing is that those who most identify with "team tank" are generally obsessed with the Jazz throwing away their best opportunity this year by winning too much. If tanking, in the common vernacular, was just a synonym for rebuilding, we wouldn't see so many people so anxious about the Jazz not losing enough.
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Why do those on team tank want to lose?
 
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