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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Max Porter said:
the general consensus im gathering from jazz fans is that they prefer Donovan to be traded but I still can’t fully grasp why. Small markets don’t come across a guy like Donovan very often. He’s very talented, great on and off the court. He hasn’t asked for a trade. We haven’t really had a team where he’s the smallest guy in the lineup. Why not give it a shot? Is there really no way to rebuild this team with Mitchell? He’s entering his prime.
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I can only speak for myself, but I want him traded because I see no point in retooling around a guy that isn’t going to be here long term and since the best free agent we’ve signed in years is Bogey, we aren’t going to win a chip with Don, so I have no interest in that option. The longer you keep Don, chances are his value goes down not up do to him then having less years on his contract.
 
LoPo said:
Watch what you say. You could get banned for using the b word.
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Elizah Huge said:
23/25/27 unprotected 1sts
2023 Dallas 1st (top-10 protected)
2025 Milwaukee 1st (top-4 protected)
26/28 pick swaps
Obi Toppin
Quentin Grimes
Salary filler (Fournier or preferably Rose)

This seems like a really good compromise from both sides.
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Katz on the RealGM show said something interesting - it seems like the Knicks want to keep enough picks so they would be able to pursue another big time player in 2024. With that said... here's what I came up with...

Filler, Topin, Grimes/Quickley
23 NYK, 29NYK
DAL 23
WAS 23
DET 23
Pick swaps 26, 28

This leaves NYK 4 picks to try to get another star in 24 - NYK 25, NYK 27, NYK 31, MKE 25 + swaps. (they might even include whoever they draft in 24 in the deal after the draft(like we got Kessler).

The awkward thing is... this is starting to become ridiculous for us with the number of picks in the 2023 draft. This would be 7 1st rounders if they all convert. But reality is - a lot of those won't (DAL converts, DET - probably not, WAS probably not)...

We still get one premier assett in an unprotected 29 NYK pick and we get two valuable swaps in case NYK collapses after Don's contract is up.
 
stitches said:
Katz on the RealGM show said something interesting - it seems like the Knicks want to keep enough picks so they would be able to pursue another big time player in 2024. With that said... here's what I came up with...

Filler, Topin, Grimes/Quickley
23 NYK, 29NYK
DAL 23
WAS 23
DET 23
Pick swaps 26, 28

This leaves NYK 4 picks to try to get another star in 24 - NYK 25, NYK 27, NYK 31, MKE 25 + swaps. (they might even include whoever they draft in 24 in the deal after the draft(like we got Kessler).

The awkward thing is... this is starting to become ridiculous for us with the number of picks in the 2023 draft. This would be 7 1st rounders if they all convert. But reality is - a lot of those won't (DAL converts, DET - probably not, WAS probably not)...

We still get one premier assett in an unprotected 29 NYK pick and we get two valuable swaps in case NYK collapses after Don's contract is up.
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The Knicks shouldnt need picks to get multiple star. They should be clearing cap for a star and using the picks to add role players (or draft since they seem to be doing a good job at drafting in the 20's).

I listened to the same pod and I thought it was weird when he said that. Using the picks to get the 1st star makes sense, but then you should be able to use that star to attract another one if you are in a market like NYC.
 
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