Lockout!!!
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Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
A shaved bear riding around in a van? Is DutchJazzer in the circus?
I hope there's progress. I'm more excited about the Jazz than I have been since Deron's second season. Once I realized Booz, Okur and Deron would never contend I gradually lost hope. Now I'm anxious to watch this team progress. I like all four of the young 'uns. Wouldn't it be great if we saw a couple of them develop into superstars (or at least all-stars)?
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here's a list of all the players that have agreed to overseas contracts:
https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/08/03/overseas/index.html
there is only a handful of guys with no opt-out. they are nobodies, for the most part, except for these:
https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/08/03/overseas/index.html
there is only a handful of guys with no opt-out. they are nobodies, for the most part, except for these:
- Rasual Butler
- Wilson Chandler
- Ersan Ilyasova
- Nenad Krstic
- J.R. Smith
- Sasha Vujacic
Aren't Chandler and Smith both RFA's this year? Be interesting for the Nuggets if the season starts close to on time and they are stuck overseas
Chris-L
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A quote from that article:
"Union executive director Billy Hunter said players were prepared to make a "significant" financial move, but found owners unwilling to budge off their positions. Commissioner David Stern and Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver countered that the union insisted the current cap remain exactly as is before they would agree to any further discussions."
https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6965103/nba-players-union-impasse-time-start-season-now-doubt
It's very frustrating that the players aren't willing to move at all on the salary cap issue. IMHO that's the most important thing to change in all this. If we lose any games, or even the whole season, I blame the players. There's enough money to go around, they need to stop being so stubborn on this issue and atleast be willing to look at the options.
"Union executive director Billy Hunter said players were prepared to make a "significant" financial move, but found owners unwilling to budge off their positions. Commissioner David Stern and Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver countered that the union insisted the current cap remain exactly as is before they would agree to any further discussions."
https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6965103/nba-players-union-impasse-time-start-season-now-doubt
It's very frustrating that the players aren't willing to move at all on the salary cap issue. IMHO that's the most important thing to change in all this. If we lose any games, or even the whole season, I blame the players. There's enough money to go around, they need to stop being so stubborn on this issue and atleast be willing to look at the options.
GVC
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So the players agree to give up money, while not giving much ground on structural issues, the owners agree to move on nothing, and you blame the players? Brilliant.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
They're losing money. The players aren't. What's the issue here?
GVC
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The owners are looking for, relative to other American pro sports leagues, a ridiculously large slice of the pie AND absolute cost certainty. The players are moving from their position, but the owners won't budge. While I don't understand why the players are so in love with a soft cap (I love it because it's far more interesting than a hard cap), I fail to see why the owners insist on "total capitulation" (to quote Billy Hunter). The owners are not negotiating in good faith, the players are (and, well, they're the product).
1. "THEY". Who is, who isn't? Don't cite me vague, info-war Stern press-releases.
2. What constitutes "loss"? How much of the loss is legally cooked books? Don't cite me vague, info-war Stern press-releases.
3. BILLIONAIRES. Do people know what that means?
4. Players will be losing money, and a MUCH larger source-of-income than the owners will be.
5. Owners won't negotiate in good faith if the report is true.