Looking for a new team

[fishonjazz]

Also, all those that think Favors and Hayward will stay. When was the last time a half decent UFA resigned with the Jazz? Andre, Karl, John? LOL (Not including extensions).

We don't have a great record of keeping decent players. Hayward WILL NOT resign with the Jazz. He's already made his money and he'll play where he'd like to play

You need to stop living in past. have fun. Be optimistic about the future. Its way more fun. No matter what happened in the past, the future is still a mystery.
I wonder if oakland warriors fans a few years back were like "man we have sucked for quite a while now... im sure we will just suck forever since we have sucked in the past"

 

[fishonjazz]

This is laughable at worst.

Not to me it isn't. Like i said before, I think our players are better than you think they are. Our opinions about the team will stay different as long as that is the case.

 

[fishonjazz]

Favors has two years left on his contract. He'll be an unrestricted free agent in 2018.

So i said two years right? Lets see. 16-17 season would be one year. 17-18 season would be year two. Did i do the math right?

 

[fishonjazz]

Here we go again. The "give us 2 more years" discussion that has ALREADY been going on for years. Gordo and Favors could and might be gone "in 2 more years."

I don't think favors can be.

Favors has two years left on his contract. He'll be an unrestricted free agent in 2018.

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[Shad]

Well, I hate to be a realist on you but the team is mediocre at best even when healthy. This is a business and not just about basketball and our 2 best player's contracts are up in 2 years so get ready for either more "give us 10 more years of rebuilding" or shoot for the stars now.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well, I hate to be a realist on you but the team is mediocre at best even when healthy. This is a business and not just about basketball and our 2 best player's contracts are up in 2 years so get ready for either more "give us 10 more years of rebuilding" or shoot for the stars now.

nah, in two years (favors last year of his contract) our team will be good enough, experienced enough, familiar enough with the coaches and each other, and hopefully healthy enough to be really good. Favors will want to stay with what he helped build.

 

[GVC]

So i said two years right? Lets see. 16-17 season would be one year. 17-18 season would be year two. Did i do the math right?

You said Favors couldn't leave within two more years. He'll be an unrestricted free agent in two more years. So...yeah, you ****ed up.

 

[franklin]

I don't think we will. We will be good soon.
Hood lyles burks exum gobert favors will all want to stay. Favors loves it here and took a discount. Burks is under contract for a while and I think he likes it here. In two years exum, hood, lyles, gobert, burks, and favors all might be much better players than they are now. We will be winning enough in two years for them to want to stay.

We just barely acquired a lot of our guys. They are so young. Gotta give them a few years and some health.

Favors and hayward are the vets and they are both high quality nba players. What happens when we still have hayward and favors (with more experience) and lyles, hood, exum, gobert, and Burks all have a large amount of minutes under their belt to the point that they are young vets instead of only having played as much as rookies and sophmores.

Gobert, hood, exum, and lyles all show lots of potential and have such a low, amount of total minutes played. They are babies in the nba. Even hood and gobert who are a bit older age wise have not played much total nba minutes in their careers.

Hell with burks injuries and constant bench role he really doesn't have all that many minutes either.

The core is still really young despite the fact that favors and hayward seem like old vets apparently.

You've been selling the yungins will be good someday trust me guys pitch for far too long. No, no they won't. Those who can put aside their Jazz bias and those on the outside looking in know what we have.

Burks - role player
Exum - #4 pick bust
Gobert - pretty good, awesome dude but no cornerstone and not a well rounded player
Favors - solid, middle of the road piece, somewhat efficient
Hayward - solid, middle of the road piece, somewhat efficient
Hood - the only wildcard in the deck atm

That's not a rebuild, that's a bludgeoning of the fanbases trust. You and [MENTION=1988]Stoked[/MENTION] and the likes can continue your starry eyed love for the franchise and I applaud you for your willingness to find some charm in maggots. I, however, find it quite silly to pledge my blind devotion to a team that continues blunder after blunder, and an ownership group who is well known for keeping the franchise only to benefit their greasy car sales business. And if you don't think LHM was the greasiest person on the planet you likely don't know an actual thing about the guy. The guy even admitted to screwing John and Karl out of a championship. Personally, I hope the team gets sold.

 

[fishonjazz]

You said Favors couldn't leave within two more years. He'll be an unrestricted free agent in two more years. So...yeah, you ****ed up.

You're way to technial if you take two years to mean 730 calendar days with in the context of the discussion, which was me telling him that in 2 years (2 years in this case obviously meaning seasons since we are discussing basketball games) the jazz will be really good. He said favors would be gone in two years (seasons). I knew he was under contact for 2 more seasons. I still beleive that to be true and still believe that in two years (seasons, 17-18 one to be exact) we will be really good and favors will want to stay.

 

[franklin]

People love the Warriors. Try them. Or the Celtics look like a good up and comer. And if you want to stay truly hated around here, be a Thunder fan.

How about I pick a way less loved/hated character like Trevor Booker and whine for years when he's gone. Those troll jobs seem really easy but that one would be over-the-top lame to the point I might actually find humor in it.

 

[fishonjazz]

You've been selling the yungins will be good someday trust me guys pitch for far too long. No, no they won't. Those who can put aside their Jazz bias and those on the outside looking in know what we have.

Burks - role player
Exum - #4 pick bust
Gobert - pretty good, awesome dude but no cornerstone and not a well rounded player
Favors - solid, middle of the road piece, somewhat efficient
Hayward - solid, middle of the road piece, somewhat efficient
Hood - the only wildcard in the deck atm

That's not a rebuild, that's a bludgeoning of the fanbases trust. You and [MENTION=1988]Stoked[/MENTION] and the likes can continue your starry eyed love for the franchise and I applaud you for your willingness to find some charm in maggots. I, however, find it quite silly to pledge my blind devotion to a team that continues blunder after blunder, and an ownership group who is well known for keeping the franchise only to benefit their greasy car sales business. And if you don't think LHM was the greasiest person on the planet you likely don't know an actual thing about the guy. The guy even admitted to screwing John and Karl out of a championship. Personally, I hope the team gets sold.

We disagree. Yes I have been selling the young ones for a while now. And last year was a playoff team without the injuries and a super young team as well.
What we have been waiting for is coming. (If what you have been waiting for isn't being a championship contender anyway).
It's gonna be ok

 

[MDAV28]

I just wanted to say fishionjazz is killing it in this thread.

I don't really see the point of bitching about the Jazz and announcing you're looking for another team. Go find another team. Nobody cares.

We were spoiled with success for a loooonnnnngggg time. A long rebuild doesn't sit well with Jazz fans. It makes sense. I'm of the opinion Corbin and Kanter set the franchise back and Quin and DL are picking up the pieces.