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♪alt13
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RandyForRubio
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Saying "you're a Christian if you say you are" goes against what the holy book of that religion says, but whatevs. It probably doesn't matter in relation to the argument.
Your interpretation of The Bible that is. There are theologians who don't even think you need to believe in Christ's godhood to be a Christian. And I'm pretty sure they read the Bible too.
What that book "says" has been debated endlessly. Each group has different views on what that is. That won't change.
Just look at all the different Christian sects today. Not all of them agree that all the others are "Christian". But that doesn't stop them from being "Christian" as they see it.
None have them control who is or isn't.
RandyForRubio
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In that case, I'm a member of the Utah Jazz. At least that's how I'm interpreting this paper I have from them. It only matters what I think after all.
Pointless discussion anyways, not sure why I even bothered.
Unless you're Mormon.
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Mormon as recognized by that church. But some fLDS ppl consider themselves Mormon even tho the church proper may not classify them as "Mormon".
I meant that if you are a Mormon and consider yourself Christian, nobody else considers you a Christian.
Most people are not seriously informed enough to do critical thinking even about broad cultural definitions, which would seem to dictate a significant consensus as to who is "religious" or "Christian" or "moslem". It has long been my observation that the minor distinctions often loom larger because of their usefulness in quickly differentiating between local groups.
There is, in this sense, a lot of concise utility in saying one person is not a "Christian", like others in the little church in the wildwood, but a Catholic, who attends the big city church. Usually, I would assume that most people understand Catholics believe in Jesus, as they understand the evangelicals believe in Jesus on their own definitions.
So who is qualified, really, to define "Christian"????
The only absolutely qualified definer is Christ. The rest of us have to refer to some standard of judgment of our own invention.
Jonah
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I like Kierkegaard’s idea of Christianity. People who consider themselves Christians, as a matter of course and without reflection, are deceiving themselves. Other than Christ, no one is really Christian. That it's more useful to talk in terms of those interested in becoming Christian and for them it is a journey without end, at least in this life.