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[JazzyFresh]

Let’s all have a moment of silence for the miserable hand dealt to this 3-year old.

Classy

 

[NUMBERICA]

What I don't understand is the all or nothing mentality. Like, why is it so bad for me to think 1) the cops should not have shot Blake in the back 8 times - they should have never had let him make it to the vehicle if they thought he was going for a weapon. They were wrong on so many levels to me and 2) don't resist arrests, fight cops and reach for anything - especially in front of your kids. It’s a recipe for disaster and for getting shot.

Why is this so triggering to some?

It’s a false equivalency and reinforces the wildly unfair advantage to the oppressor.

 

[NAOS]

It’s a false equivalency and reinforces the wildly unfair advantage to the oppressor.

You’re gonna have to break that down for him. He’s the all-time master of false equivalence, has been called out on it thousands of times, and still doesn’t get it.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Can you provide a single answer I got?

I’m not playing this. It is your job to read posts that respond to yours. Only a concerted effort to ignore and discredit others lands where you’re at and I’m actually not even trying to be mean.

 

[LoPo]

Ok good post but if this is true what has BLM done with their billion plus?

That is a very fair question. I didn't know they had raised that much, but I am definitely intrigued on how they plan on making the world a better place with that money.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I’m not playing this. It is your job to read posts that respond to yours. Only a concerted effort to ignore and discredit others lands where you’re at and I’m actually not even trying to be mean.

$20 to show me once where this was answered. Some here know I'm good for my money. Personally I think you're talking out of your butt and this answer is a means to not answer my question. That's not me being mean either.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tbh, I really don't see why Jacob Blake's history is relevant at all. We don't need any extra context to know how ****ed up what happened is. But I'm the one getting bogged down in useless conversation now. So joke's on me.

I think it is relevant in understanding why he may not have complied. By the accounts I have heard he was breaking up a fight and now he is about to get taken in... dude had a past so he knows he's going to jail... not sure if he is on probation or if he'd be tagged as a repeat offender and get a larger sentence. He was likely trying to avoid prison inc.

Not saying that is right or wrong but I'm sure his history, that I think only he knew, factored into his thinking. The guy isn't a saint... just because he has committed crimes in the past doesn't mean he was committing a crime in this instance. Did the officers even know his past?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

You can read the actual complaint on line. What Blake did was vile, misogynistic, brutal, and abusive toward his wife, but it was not rape.

It isn't really the main focus of this thread, not that I really consider it a "discussion", but I think you need to re-evaluate what your understanding of rape is.
If an action crosses the boundary of what is rape even a little, it's rape. It doesn't matter if you are/were married to the person or not.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I have an idea: Make them keep their gun in their trunk, and record every time they open the locker.

Also, why don't cops have smart guns?

I can imagine a number of situations where they need a weapon. Having the gun in their trunk doesn't work when someone pulls a gun on them for example. Would you like to be that cop? Having a taser or other non-lethal weapon probably does help them defend themselves in most cases. Is that good enough? Perhaps not. Hence it's complicated. But I would support trialing 'effective non-lethals'.

 

[Archie Moses]

I haven’t seen it either. Please elaborate (I am operating in good faith here).

I've written plenty about social injustice, police brutality and the need for change amongst police officers and their training.
I don't doubt that you haven't read it, but I assure you, I stand for the same things you and everyone else stands for. Having discussions about other things does not take away from anything.

 

[Archie Moses]

It’s a false equivalency and reinforces the wildly unfair advantage to the oppressor.

I'm not equating those two things. Like, ar all...

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I'm not defending him. I also said it's wrong.

It's not racism though by definition or actuality. A white person is not minority or marginalized group. He is not being discriminated against. White people do not have prejudice against them for the color of their skin.

It's not comparable to saying a similar statement towards a black person.

If you want to make a difference stop thinking white people are also being subject to racism and victims. They are not. They might face other issues but their skin color is not one.

Maybe do some research on reverse racism. It's very interesting and useful information.

I get the argument you make. I am not here for a semantics battle. Who cares what you call it. It is not OK.

Most people are a minority in some phase of their lives. If you move to Colombia (as I did as a kid) and you are white, are you not the minority? If you are affiliated with a religion or creed or if you are homosexual... then are you not a minority in some circles and the majority in others? When I went to a mosque in Saudi Arabia around people I didn't know who didn't speak my language and people got mad and yelled 'Ameriqui!' at me... I felt like a minority. My gay friends go to a gay club in New York and they don't feel like the minority in the room, but others who are straight may. If you are a liberal at a Trump rally then you may temporarily feel like a minority in that crowd. In those situations, it is easy to belittle or overpower someone and it is easy to cross a line. In the NBA, white players are a situational form of minority. No doubt that is different than for our entire country as a whole and that our history cannot be ignored and the ongoing climate cannot be ignored.

Still, the minute that someone tries to subject another person through use of racially motivated comments, they are out of bounds. Call it what you will, I would call it an attempt to flex power over someone through the use of a racially motivated slur. Substitute the skin color and see how uncomfortable you are. It would have been an outrage and hence... it is not OK. If I am looking to create change, then I would take the high road. I would never encourage, defend, or support this behavior especially when I am telling others that they need to stop doing the same thing. That sentiment does not gain you much ground.

Harrel crossed a line. Don't cross it. Call it what you will... it doesn't help create change.