It seems pretty clear that if the cavs want to keep James they better fill every position and have some depth.
I'd seriously consider trading Kanter for Bennett straight up. Then you give me some firsts as well? Done deal. See ya poor man's Al Jefferson.
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];875796 said:You will be forced to apologize when Kanter becomes beast and starts removing players bodies from there lap taffy. you forget he has injury last year.
I think most of you undervalue Kanter. He is super strong 6'11" big with soft touch and range. Only 22.2 years old too. I was truly shocked by his poor defense and court awareness last year and I believe this is all mental issues.. I am very unhappy with his involvement with the religious Gulen Sect. Yes, he certainly will be better than last year, he will improve. But one thing he can't obviously do is passing. He stops the flow of offense, hogs the ball, is afraid to turn the ball over. I listened to Q, he wants a team sharing the ball, passing after passing until finding the highest percentage shot. Kanter may actually not be in Q's plans for this very reason. Also the recent moves make me think the Jazz FO might have plans of moving Kanter before the deadline. So we may see Kanter get around 38 mpg, put some numbers like 18/10 so his trade value will rise a bit.
Which sentence is the odd man out?
I think most of you undervalue Kanter. He is super strong 6'11" big with soft touch and range. Only 22.2 years old too. I was truly shocked by his poor defense and court awareness last year and I believe this is all mental issues.. I am very unhappy with his involvement with the religious Gulen Sect. Yes, he certainly will be better than last year, he will improve. But one thing he can't obviously do is passing. He stops the flow of offense, hogs the ball, is afraid to turn the ball over. I listened to Q, he wants a team sharing the ball, passing after passing until finding the highest percentage shot. Kanter may actually not be in Q's plans for this very reason. Also the recent moves make me think the Jazz FO might have plans of moving Kanter before the deadline. So we may see Kanter get around 38 mpg, put some numbers like 18/10 so his trade value will rise a bit.
Which sentence is the odd man out?
Yes there is an odd-man-out sentence in jjscap's posts
But otherwise i think he has a point. I'm curious as to his fit in the new Q-fense. But we'll see if it is about a choice for Kanter or rather his ability to do what is asked of him. Kanter was showing his promise before the shoulder injury. I'm still hopeful he reaches his potential with Jazz.
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];876088 said:PKM,
Knowing what you know about Kanter, Synder, etc. -- would you care to make a prediction about Kanter's role next year? his productivity?
I think most of you undervalue Kanter. He is super strong 6'11" big with soft touch and range. Only 22.2 years old too. I was truly shocked by his poor defense and court awareness last year and I believe this is all mental issues.. I am very unhappy with his involvement with the religious Gulen Sect. Yes, he certainly will be better than last year, he will improve. But one thing he can't obviously do is passing. He stops the flow of offense, hogs the ball, is afraid to turn the ball over. I listened to Q, he wants a team sharing the ball, passing after passing until finding the highest percentage shot. Kanter may actually not be in Q's plans for this very reason. Also the recent moves make me think the Jazz FO might have plans of moving Kanter before the deadline. So we may see Kanter get around 38 mpg, put some numbers like 18/10 so his trade value will rise a bit.
I don't have a clue.
I haven't spoken to Kanter directly but one time since he was drafted, but spoke to him and hung out dozens of time while he was at UK. I told lots of people the guy has 3pt range and a sweet stroke.. dude can flat play.
Here's the problem, as stated all the way back to pre-draft.. he needs a coach that will spend considerable time with him, make him feel needed and important, and lots of individual instruction. I saw him thrive when Cal would work with him one on one and he would dominate practices.. just as he handled Cousins and got under his skin, big time.
Most NBA coaches just do not expect to have to hand hold guys, stroke their egos, and cater to their high maintenance issues.. nor should they have to, it's a profession. But it is what it is. Kanter gives you what you give him. He will kick some *** if Q decides he wants to put in the time a la DMC.. and won't if he won't.
He's a great baller, an insanely hilarious dude, and he loves contact and the physicality of the game.. but he's like a kid in that he needs lots of pats on the back and good pep talks. So for me, the question comes down to whether Q sees he's worth all that extra effort.
Before he was drafted I said within 3 - 5 years he's a 15/12 type of guy, iirc.. I still think that who/what he is.
So, having said all that, I think Q sees a big with tremendous upside that can be maintained on a reasonable contract.. he does, in fact, start to spend some quality time with Enes, makes an evaluation, requests he's extended/kept early while value is low, then takes him under his wing and Enes becomes a solid 15-18 ppg and 10-12 rpg guy.
Btw, I'm not normally for catering to needy players, but Enes is a really good kid and could be a very valuable contract. An exception to the rule, if you will.
I don't have a clue.
I haven't spoken to Kanter directly but one time since he was drafted, but spoke to him and hung out dozens of time while he was at UK. I told lots of people the guy has 3pt range and a sweet stroke.. dude can flat play.
Here's the problem, as stated all the way back to pre-draft.. he needs a coach that will spend considerable time with him, make him feel needed and important, and lots of individual instruction. I saw him thrive when Cal would work with him one on one and he would dominate practices.. just as he handled Cousins and got under his skin, big time.
Most NBA coaches just do not expect to have to hand hold guys, stroke their egos, and cater to their high maintenance issues.. nor should they have to, it's a profession. But it is what it is. Kanter gives you what you give him. He will kick some *** if Q decides he wants to put in the time a la DMC.. and won't if he won't.
He's a great baller, an insanely hilarious dude, and he loves contact and the physicality of the game.. but he's like a kid in that he needs lots of pats on the back and good pep talks. So for me, the question comes down to whether Q sees he's worth all that extra effort.
Before he was drafted I said within 3 - 5 years he's a 15/12 type of guy, iirc.. I still think that who/what he is.
So, having said all that, I think Q sees a big with tremendous upside that can be maintained on a reasonable contract.. he does, in fact, start to spend some quality time with Enes, makes an evaluation, requests he's extended/kept early while value is low, then takes him under his wing and Enes becomes a solid 15-18 ppg and 10-12 rpg guy.
Btw, I'm not normally for catering to needy players, but Enes is a really good kid and could be a very valuable contract. An exception to the rule, if you will.
I'm convinced. As the driver of the Kwame Kanter bus, I will head straight to the local diocese for confession and penance in two days time, unless the cat licks are open on Sabado. Confession Audio forthcoming.
Your confession here will suffice. Go forth and prosper.
Not this Gulen "sect" ******** again. The Gulen movement is a moderate Islamic movement that preaches a discourse and ethical code based in interfaith principles, and they operate dozens of schools in the United States. The nation that taps the phones of German politicians and won't let you carry a larger than travel size can of shaving cream on a 90 minute flight to Vegas isn't going to allow an Islamic sect to open schools. The only people that consider the Gulen movement to be a sect are Turkish nationals who don't like the group's influence in the Turkish political structure and, in particular, their advocacy of moderate policies.
Kanter is fine, at least in this regard. The LDS church is far more secretive and "sect"-like than the Gulen movement.
Chill.