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proposed trade for Harrison Barnes.

NAOS said:
So, let me see if I get this right....

I can have Harrison Barnes

or

I can have Devin Booker, DeMarre Carroll, and maybe enough left over to get Corey Joseph. (And I also don't have to cut ties with Trevor Booker).

We need depth as much as we need another key player. If we had a top-10 bench right now, and the season was just beginning, we'd be in the hunt for the playoffs.
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I like demarre better than Barnes anyways. Would rather sign him and keep our draft pick. I think our young guys have some growth left to do. Especially exum, and it looks like Burke might be turning into a rotation keeper since he started coming off the bench.

If we even get half as lucky as the Gobert pick, the. Keeping every single first founder for the next five years is worth it.
 
NAOS said:
So, let me see if I get this right....

I can have Harrison Barnes

or

I can have Devin Booker, DeMarre Carroll, and maybe enough left over to get Corey Joseph. (And I also don't have to cut ties with Trevor Booker).

We need depth as much as we need another key player. If we had a top-10 bench right now, and the season was just beginning, we'd be in the hunt for the playoffs.
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The question is do you really think you can have DeMarre Carroll and Corey Joseph with the whole league coming after them?
 
gregbroncs said:
I was all for Paul Millsap as a 3. I don't think Booker has the skills needed. Lebron would torch Booker.
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I'm looking at the whole team though.

Your options are

Exum
Hayward
Booker
Favors
Gobert

or

Exum
Jingles or Sapling
Hayward
Favors
Gobert

Anyway I'm kinda going off on a tangent and this discussion really doesn't belong in this thread.
 
Hack said:
I think Barnes is capable of much more than his stats say he is. He's just on a team that already has a lot of great scorers.
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Carroll is starting on a team with FOUR all-stars-- one of which is either the best (or the 2nd best) three-point shooter in the NBA this season. Pls explain to me why Carroll can fit in more three-point makes than Barnes.
 
NAOS said:
Indeed, that is the question.

Pass on Barnes, though.
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Our only in with Carroll is a) he likes Utah, by all accounts; b) He loves Quin


Bud, again, bringing in Carroll would mean leaving Hayward at the 2. I'm fine with Hayward guarding threes-- let's bring in a better defensive 2 (*cough cough*, Tony Snell, or KCP) and that will round things out nicely.
 
BTW, I advocated for pursuing Snell a few months ago.... now that Yeyo Green is on the case, well, ****.

Carroll can guard 2s. He does it all the time. I've watched ~90% of Hawks games the past two years.
 
Unless a true veteran (not Barnes) who is really good and a good fit I don't think we can say we are too young and we are going to trade the pick. Even at 10-12 there are good players.

We have to make a run at the 3 and D guys... there are plenty of them and they will likely all sign wherever the most dough is. Wes Matthews, Danny Green, Demarre Carroll, Middleton... if all say no or get matched go to plan B. At very least we can raise the asking price so no one gets a bargain.
 
Stifle Tower said:
For one season, sure, we have money to spend. But don't forget Hayward and Favors will soon be up for new contracts and then Gobert. Matching a big contract in 2016 could land the team in serious financial straits by 2018 or 2019.
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Teams can go over the cap when signing their own players. In 2018 the cap is projected to be 94 million. The Luxury tax will probably be around 110M. We can pretty much max out Favors, Gobert and Hayward (if we so wish and if the market requires it - I doubt that all of them will require max) without going into the luxury tax.
 
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