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Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Stoked, Jul 1, 2019.
I honestly like this post.
Good to see someone pump the brakes a bit.
I had a Vinyl One but it was too vanilla. Felt I needed a bit more diversity - and length.
B+ to A-
Plug the hole at PF and it's an A+
NPC laid out a lot of my reasoning but I'm more optimistic. I'm just not 100% sold on Bojan, especially for the deal he got. It feels like we got a better version of Jingles in a way (not a bad thing) but I think we'll miss Favors more than we realize. For example he helped make our matchup with Denver a lot easier, and now I'm not sure. They're one of our main competitors this year so that's a big deal. Our offense is a lot better but I'm worried about the defense and rebounding. Maybe scoring more makes up for that. There's a reason Jeff Green has bounced around so much - fans need to be ready for him to look amazing every fifth game and mediocre to bad the other 4.
I definitely trust the front office and I've had more faith in them than most for a long time. Maybe I'm just irrationally attached to Favors, and I wanted to see how he'd look with Conley on the team, and how the offense in general would look. Maybe Bojan just wasn't what I had in mind this season. I think a lot of people wanted change for change's sake at 4 and I didn't need it as much. I'm cautiously optimistic and I need to see the team in action.
You believe that analytics say that backup centers win championships?
We aren’t pretending. Being morally superior to you is a very low bar, so we aren’t bragging.
See reality here for Toronto and his name is Serge Ibaka
May take a couple years, but I think Brantley can be a starting stretch playmaking 4
Bojan is more explosive than Joe. Ed Davis is one of the leagues best rebounders so don't worry too much
So if we pick up Serge we get a ring?
No I'm saying backup centers help with rings when they can be impactful
Of course. But we are not discussing whether he can be on a title team or help win a title.
The question is whether Ed Davis can win you a title.
I believe he can help contribute attributes required to winning a ring but he can't do it single handedly. He has really great traits
Could be with a cooler head but wanted to beat down that girl last night on the floor for the Spurs
Sounds healthy and egoless.
Maybe but that's my concern. We have great to spectacular starters at every position right now, except the 4, and at the 4 we don't really even have anyone basically serviceable. Need at least something of an upgrade there. Can't see bojan filling that, he'd get killed by most true 4's in the league, but my bet is that is what the FO intends. Also I know we are signing dudes at the min but we have taken in more than a couple of projects. Not many championship teams consist of 2-3 all-stars surrounded by 3 or 4 projects. Need at least one or 2 solid vets to fill the gaps. Don't get me wrong I'm ecstatic we finally decided to make those moves we've needed for years. I'm just tempering my expectations and realising we are more likely a 2nd round team now, maybe WCF, but not really a full contender. I hope we are, and I could absolutely be wrong about this with so many unknowns right now, but I don't think so.
I wanted him to beat him down!!
GS’s team has been filled with ear young projects you speak of.
Not so much, how does Livingston compare to, say, Exum, or Mudiay. Also it's a bit different when you are running out top-3 guys at their position, perennial all-stars at multiple positions, and perennial MVP candidates. You can absorb that when you have 2 (and it was 3 for a couple of years there) of the maybe 4 guys on the planet capable of going like 9 for 14 from 3 and dropping 40+ on any given night.