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KqWIN said:
Garrison Matthews is still OP with his shooting form. Dude literally cannot be guarded because he jumps 5 feet forward.

Also, thank god for Shaq Harrison. This is hilarious.
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Why is it hilarious? There are Shaq Harrison’s… there are also GP2s, Garrison Matthew’s, Caleb Martin’s… just cuz guys get passed by doesn’t mean they can’t be contributors.
 
infection said:
There are no good single women. If they were good, they wouldn’t be single. The only good ones are taken. But a good one can’t go through a divorce or separation, because if they were so good then nobody would have let them go. Since it’s impossible to find a good woman, the only reasonable solution is to stay single. Forever.

/basketball logic
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Pretty poor analogy. How many women are there in the world? Like billions right? Vs how many players in the world can play in the nba. Kinda night and day i think.
 
fishonjazz said:
Pretty poor analogy. How many women are there in the world? Like billions right? Vs how many players in the world can play in the nba. Kinda night and day i think.
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No it’s just the idea that people assume if something’s available, then it must not have value. We regard Ingles and Royce highly and both those guys could have very well never ended up in the league.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Why is it hilarious? There are Shaq Harrison’s… there are also GP2s, Garrison Matthew’s, Caleb Martin’s… just cuz guys get passed by doesn’t mean they can’t be contributors.
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Because that was never the point with Shaq Harrison. The point was that (at the time) Shaq Harrison looked like an obvious player that deserved a contract. It was so surprised that he didn't have a contract that I speculated there was probably something we don't know that was keeping him from having a contract. If you're surprised that someone isn't signed, it shouldn't surprise you that something was preventing him from being signed. That was my logic anyways...but apparently the assumption that there may be something teams know that we don't was the most offensive thing you could say around these parts.
 
infection said:
No it’s just the idea that people assume if something’s available, then it must not have value. We regard Ingles and Royce highly and both those guys could have very well never ended up in the league.
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I can agree with your point and still think the analogy was off.
 
fishonjazz said:
Pretty poor analogy. How many women are there in the world? Like billions right? Vs how many players in the world can play in the nba. Kinda night and day i think.
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Nah, single women are as desperate to link up with any potential partner in the same way that unsigned basketball players are desperate to sign with every NBA team.
 
I cant ever remeber a season that a 1/3rd of the way thru I'm thinking so many teams are going to be much better in 20-30 more games..


Toronto

Cleveland

makin me believers bigitme... There's just a very Scottie Barnes looking thing going on in Toronto, and Scottie Barnes is a winning player thru and thru, so the results are sure to follow..

Cleveland is just fittin to blow up for a fistful of reasons.... Darius Garland is gonna be a star!
 
KqWIN said:
Because that was never the point with Shaq Harrison. The point was that (at the time) Shaq Harrison looked like an obvious player that deserved a contract. It was so surprised that he didn't have a contract that I speculated there was probably something we don't know that was keeping him from having a contract. If you're surprised that someone isn't signed, it shouldn't surprise you that something was preventing him from being signed. That was my logic anyways...but apparently the assumption that there may be something teams know that we don't was the most offensive thing you could say around these parts.
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It’s hilarious that you think it’s hilarious… there are plenty of guys I’m surprised don’t get signed… one was Garrison… it’s the assumption you’ve pushed several times and it’s been proven to be garbage a few times now. If 30 teams passed on the guy… blah blah blah. Doesn’t mean Dunn, Matthew’s, Galloway, GP2, Dedmon, Martin, Shaq are garbage or hurt or washed. Can there be wisdom in the masses… sure… can there also be herd mentality and they all miss? For sure.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It’s hilarious that you think it’s hilarious… there are plenty of guys I’m surprised don’t get signed… one was Garrison… it’s the assumption you’ve pushed several times and it’s been proven to be garbage a few times now. If 30 teams passed on the guy… blah blah blah. Doesn’t mean Dunn, Matthew’s, Galloway, GP2, Dedmon, Martin, Shaq are garbage or hurt or washed. Can there be wisdom in the masses… sure… can there also be herd mentality and they all miss? For sure.
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I was surprised Shaq didn't get signed, so I suspected there was something we didn't know because it seemed obvious that he would get a contract otherwise. My assumption wasn't even that he was bad, if you go back and look I was thinking that maybe he was looking for a better contract than a minimum. That's why it's funny to me. It's taken a life of it's own and I have no idea why. The basis of this whole thing was that I believed Shaq was too good to be passed on by every team. Was my thought that he's bad and we shouldn't sign him? It wasn't that at all lol.

You're acting like I blindly follow the rule of, "if a player is out of the league, he must be bad". If that was the case, why have I been more supportive of Galloway? I do consider it in some situations. Dunn and Aminu are good examples of this. It's my belief that if they were healthy, they'd be in the league right now. I don't have any insight on their current situation, but NBA teams do. They could be wrong, absolutely. NBA teams could totally misevaluate a player's health. But they do have more info than me, so yeah, I would appeal to authority in this situation. To me it's a more logical assumption than assuming they're healthy. If they were signed to rosters I would absolutely feel better about their health situation.

But for someone like Galloway? I don't see the same level concern. Personally I think his agent did a bad job of having him go to camp with GSW who is short on roster spots. Same goes for the "any random G-Leaguer" type player. It's very difficult for a player on the fringes to find his footing. The right situation is so important for a player who hasn't gotten a real chance. I've never held it against the GP2, Matthews, Caruso, Martin types. Like with Galloway, I don't see the reason to. It's easy for me to see why teams miss on those guys.

Not being on a team is just a data point. In some contexts I think it means something, in other's it could mean nothing. Even if it means something to me, that something isn't always that the player sucks.
 
KqWIN said:
Because that was never the point with Shaq Harrison. The point was that (at the time) Shaq Harrison looked like an obvious player that deserved a contract. It was so surprised that he didn't have a contract that I speculated there was probably something we don't know that was keeping him from having a contract. If you're surprised that someone isn't signed, it shouldn't surprise you that something was preventing him from being signed. That was my logic anyways...but apparently the assumption that there may be something teams know that we don't was the most offensive thing you could say around these parts.
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Your interpretation of how your positions have been received around here is ****ing hilarious.
 
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