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Cant believe HH tries to compare 2nd rate stars to GOATS and then tries to bitch at me for comparing the rookie contract years of two players. So lame.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Not one "if" in that paragraph.

Yeah, Luka is going to give work. He's going to give a lot of work. SO much work that he's always going to wear himself thin while not trusting his teammates enough, leading to his team always dropping the ball in the end.

Only way this isnt true is if he just gets on an absolutely loaded team where he has a top 10 and top 20 guy on his team, and even then, if he's not willing to change his game and be as elite in that change as he is now, it's not going to work out.
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He will need to have the right teammates around him... just like Jokic... just like Giannis... just like Lebron. All of those teams will live and die with their stars too. Luka's playstyle is not perfect or ideal... he's so good at it that it also won't stop him from winning a title at some point.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Holy **** you are being ridiculous. I didnt even take a single look at what the stats were because I know how comparable they were. I took the first four years because Herrro has only played 4 years. You have such a weird boner for arguing with me over dumb ****.
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Cant believe HH tries to compare 2nd rate stars to GOATS and then tries to bitch at me for comparing the rookie contract years of two players. So lame.
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Diaper baby tantrums.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I never brought up Rob Parker and Im not making any Rob Parker argument. You made that strawman.

I dont understand how you can get the concept of a player having to be the high usage focal point is going to lead to letdowns, but I guess being purposefully obtuse is your thing? or maybe english is your 2nd language and you just cant keep up, idk.
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There are plently of high usage focal points who have won chips when they got the right supporting cast around them.

The defense argument is fair and I agree he likely wont win in the NBA before he gets better at that. But its not that he isnt a winner. He is Euroleague champion and MVP.

Btw Parker made his argument after game 2 of the Mavs vs Suns series. Just like always, he looked like a fool and this time it took just 1 week.
 
and yes, I mistakenly included the total career for Jamal's advanced stats becuase I Didnt care too much to fix it when I accidentaly did past the 4 years.
 
HermanG said:
There are plently of high usage focal points who have won chips when they got the right supporting cast around them.

The defense argument is fair and I agree he likely wont win in the NBA before he gets better at that. But its not that he isnt a winner. He is Euroleague champion and MVP.

Btw Parker made his argument after game 2 of the Mavs vs Suns series. Just like always, he looked like a fool and this time it took just 1 week.
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With the iso heavy style of Luka/Harden where every facet of offense has to always run through them? Who?

And Carmello won the National Championship as a Freshman star like few have ever done and what did he go on to win at the NBA level with his style?

I give no ***** about Rob Parker or anything he says.
 
Just to be clear... I never compared Luka to James. I simply stated that the offense ran through Lebron and was very heliocentric and he was able to win at the highest levels. I figure those that are able to read and comprehend understood... but some like to twist any little sentence into something it isnt.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
With the iso heavy style of Luka/Harden where every facet of offense has to always run through them? Who?

And Carmello won the National Championship as a Freshman star like few have ever done and what did he go on to win at the NBA level with his style?

I give no ***** about Rob Parker or anything he says.
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What? Lukas highest iso frequency ever has been 23.8% (last season, due to Mavs being void of talent). KDs was 21.1%. Harden has had over 45% multiple years and over 30% in every one of the past X years.

That was the base of your argument? Lmao dude doesnt even watch Mavs and just throws random **** around.
 
HermanG said:
What? Lukas highest iso frequency ever has been 23.8% (last season, due to Mavs being void of talent). KDs was 21.1%. Harden has had over 45% multiple years and over 30% in every one of the past X years.

That was the base of your argument? Lmao dude doesnt even watch Mavs and just throws random **** around.
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Lmfao

So who????
 
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