JazzyFresh
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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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Red
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Lt. Col. Vindman's testimony was first hand for the 7/25 phone call, so why claim "nothing but 2nd hand"....
But nevermind, here's some more for you. You'll have to scroll down to the heading that includes "Sondland's call to Trump" for the first hand ear witness account. Note taker was part of Holmes job description. That includes training in recall. At least one other, possibly more based on my reading of his opening statement, were at the table with he and Sondland, so there may be more witnesses to this 7/26 phone call:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-holmes-statement-impeachment-inquiry-full-opening-statement/#
@colton you’ve been so scarce in Jazz discussion that I’ve wondered if you have an online presence anymore, but still have a presence in this thread.
Of all the things to squander time on JazzFanz...
Honestly I'd take a Trump impeachment and conviction in a heartbeat over a Jazz championship. This is way more important than basketball.
But that’s kind of like avidly watching the Knicks this year with your eyes in a championship.
Actually, it’s more like watching the Knicks last April with your eyes on a championship.
ETA: No, it’s really like watching Raptors/Warriors last June and saying, “the Knicks are gonna walk away with this, you just watch!”
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JazzyFresh
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Its pretty damn simple. I hopefully don't get sucked in but its over. Its been over. Let's get back to working for the people. I know this isn't the end all, but there is no evidence. Red can spout out otherwise but he's wrong. You can call me a Nazi, obtuse, stupid, idiotic, uneducated, white whatever but I'm simply right and you are wrong. This is the third witness in a row that hasn't been able come out and say Trump did anything illegal. You are making things up. Its imaginary...
Thanks and Go Utes
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I think Pelosi is correct here. At least I know I have never seen a president so demonstrably insecure as Donald Trump. Most of his detractors are focused on the "dig into Biden" request. But the "prove Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election" is more revealing of his character, IMHO.
I believe that, because the administration's effort to promote and support this conspiracy theory does seem based in massive insecurity on Trump's part, meaning, he simply cannot tolerate the proposal that his 2016 victory was tainted because of Russia trying to help him win. I mean, three years later, he still harks back to the 2016 election, and how even losing the popular vote had to be the result of election fraud.
In short, this guy has a massive, massive problem where insecurity is concerned. The bully who is president is a small and weak man, at heart. Ever known a bully who was not, at heart, weak and cowardly? That has always been my bottom line analysis. That weakness and insecurity in the person of a hate mongering demagogue is who we made our president. I don't know how his supporters can so fiercely defend such a weakling.....
I believe that, because the administration's effort to promote and support this conspiracy theory does seem based in massive insecurity on Trump's part, meaning, he simply cannot tolerate the proposal that his 2016 victory was tainted because of Russia trying to help him win. I mean, three years later, he still harks back to the 2016 election, and how even losing the popular vote had to be the result of election fraud.
In short, this guy has a massive, massive problem where insecurity is concerned. The bully who is president is a small and weak man, at heart. Ever known a bully who was not, at heart, weak and cowardly? That has always been my bottom line analysis. That weakness and insecurity in the person of a hate mongering demagogue is who we made our president. I don't know how his supporters can so fiercely defend such a weakling.....
Trump being the President is like watching the Knicks win a championship.
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2 things here:
#1 Remember how idiots in the media were whining about how the hearings lacked “pizzazz” and that Americans were too stupid to watch, care about, and understand them? How Democrats needed to add fireworks and rock music, cheerleaders, and live animals for Americans to watch? Apparently not:
All three people got to hear from Yovanovich yesterday. They all got to hear about Donald’s malfeasance. They all heard how he needed her out in order for his plot to proceed. And everyone got to see the mindlessness or republicans like Stefanik, Nunez, etc.
#2 The republican argument that Donald “just cared about corruption” is obviously false. This witness only destroys it further:
and the best thread on this:
Trump calls Sondland one day after the July 24 shakedown, to ask if he’s going to investigate the Bidens. Sondland tells trump that Zelensky “loves his ***” and will do “anything you tell him.” David Holmes, overhearing this conversation asks him about it. Sondland tells him that Donald “doesn’t give a **** about Ukraine.”
so what’s the next lousy excuse repubs are going to come up with? The first hand accounts and he only cares about corruption excuses are soon to fade. What next? It’s okay to do criming as long as it’s a Republican President who does it?
#1 Remember how idiots in the media were whining about how the hearings lacked “pizzazz” and that Americans were too stupid to watch, care about, and understand them? How Democrats needed to add fireworks and rock music, cheerleaders, and live animals for Americans to watch? Apparently not:
All three people got to hear from Yovanovich yesterday. They all got to hear about Donald’s malfeasance. They all heard how he needed her out in order for his plot to proceed. And everyone got to see the mindlessness or republicans like Stefanik, Nunez, etc.
#2 The republican argument that Donald “just cared about corruption” is obviously false. This witness only destroys it further:
and the best thread on this:
Trump calls Sondland one day after the July 24 shakedown, to ask if he’s going to investigate the Bidens. Sondland tells trump that Zelensky “loves his ***” and will do “anything you tell him.” David Holmes, overhearing this conversation asks him about it. Sondland tells him that Donald “doesn’t give a **** about Ukraine.”
so what’s the next lousy excuse repubs are going to come up with? The first hand accounts and he only cares about corruption excuses are soon to fade. What next? It’s okay to do criming as long as it’s a Republican President who does it?
The Warriors, Lakers, and Heat have been winning championships. Would have gladly subbed the Knicks for any of those.