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The Thriller

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Wtf is Nancy Pelosi .. she’s gonna go down in history as a grandstanding toxic piece of crap.

All your politicians on both sides are garbage. Our opposition leader yesterday gave a great speech that while his side would push strongly for certain issues in whatever stimulus package we’re coming up with, that this isn’t the time for haggling and they would support whatever the government wanted to do.

other countries politicians while far from perfect are making a pretty decent effort at constructively working together.

the American people have great spirit, the American leaders all around not so much

Advocating for worker protections and paid time off is now considered “grandstanding?”

what do you think about giving Donald a $500 billion dollar slush fund?
 


The Thriller

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Elections have consequences. If Republicans wanted Democrats to mindlessly rubber stamp their Senate bill then they shouldn't have epically lost the House in 2018. Elections have consequences and for one hope the Democrats give Republicans hell. Their bill sucks. It doesn't do enough to help workers and is a massive giveaway to corporations and Trump. Trump in his presser today asked us to "Trust in him" with the $500 billion dollar slush fund. Seriously? The House isn't going let "trust" in the most corrupt president in our nation's history. Especially with money. We all saw what he did to Ukraine.

Elections have consequences. Time for Repubs to compromise and work with us. No more closed door meetings with Mitch kicking Democrats out. Time to work for American citizens; not for Trump’s re-election campaign.
 
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latin jazz

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@The Thriller. Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman had some good points today about the slush fund:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/...il&login=email&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
  • "our highest priority isn’t job creation, it’s disaster relief". Basically helping families, small businesses and the health sector.
  • The stimulus bill provides "some, but only some, of the aid Americans in distress will need". The legislation includes "poison pills, like a provision that would deny aid to many nonprofit institutions like nursing homes and group homes for the disabled. But it also includes a $500 billion slush fund for corporations that the Trump administration could allocate at its discretion, with essentially no oversight. This isn’t just terrible policy; it’s an insult to our intelligence."
  • "it would be totally out of character for this administration to allocate huge sums fairly and in the public interest"
  • "there’s also the issue of competence. Why would you give vast discretionary power to a team that utterly botched the response to the coronavirus because Trump didn’t want to hear bad news?".
  • "right now Republicans seem dead set on exploiting a crisis their own president helped create by his refusal to take the pandemic seriously".
 

RandyForRubio

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It should be possible, and even reasonable, that people can say these certain things:

- The Republican bill is offering too much that we are just unsure about? Will enough money get to the employees and small business owners? We cannot have a means test for getting money. Doesn't make any sense.

- The Democrats are using the crisis to try to fund certain things they want. I mean, they've openly admitted it. In a time like this, it's deplorable. I'm sure the Republicans are doing the same thing. Again, deplorable. Act like adults and try to help the country you're serving.

- If Nancy wants us to believe her bill is all about people over corporations, it probably should have $600 million going to the National Endowment for Arts (which I had never heard of before). Probably shouldn't have $36 million going to the JFK Museum of Arts. Probably shouldn't have money going towards the climate crisis. I mean, get freaking real.

Instead of using this crisis to try to win political battles, why can't they just try to help the country? Make a bill that ONLY focuses on getting money out to employees, and business owners. Forget the climate ****. Forget taxes. Forget helping your buddies business.

And it's crazy that people like Thriller and Political Jazz Fan can only discuss the most biased views of their side. Again, act like an adult you idiotic children. Now isn't the time for Republican vs Democrat. Now is the time to help your neighbor, whether you like them or not.

Assholes.
 

RandyForRubio

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And for the love, an amount of money that's given to businesses that is later paid back, with interest, is not a bail out. Imbeciles.
 

RandyForRubio

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Oh. And $33 million to NOAA to combat the Corona virus.

What is the NOAA?

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is an American scientific agency within the United States Department of Commerce that focuses on the conditions of the oceans, major waterways, and the atmosphere.

Don't give all the holier than thou ********* about slush funds when you go and give $33 million to people who study the ocean. Give me a break. Oh and the IRS needs $300 million to deal with the Corona virus. OH BUT SLUSH FUNDS.

Gosh damn politicians. Screw them all. TRY TO HELP THE COUNTRY FOR ONCE YOU IGNORANT BASTARDS.
 

RandyForRubio

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Oh goodness it gets even better!

$7 million to Gallaudet University. A private University in DC for the deaf and blind. Now why are they getting $7 million to help with the Corona fight? Eh. Nobody knows.

Howard University (endowment of $647 million) gets $23 million.

$90 million to an HIV program. Did they forget that this is for the Corona virus? Easy to spend money that isn't yours!

$66 million to the National Center for Advancing Translating Sciences.

$300 million for the corporation for public broadcasting.

$500 million for Institute of Museum and Library Services.

Wow. This sure looks like it's helping the workers! Never wanna hear them complain about slush funds again.
 

Gameface

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It should be possible, and even reasonable, that people can say these certain things:

- The Republican bill is offering too much that we are just unsure about? Will enough money get to the employees and small business owners? We cannot have a means test for getting money. Doesn't make any sense.

- The Democrats are using the crisis to try to fund certain things they want. I mean, they've openly admitted it. In a time like this, it's deplorable. I'm sure the Republicans are doing the same thing. Again, deplorable. Act like adults and try to help the country you're serving.

- If Nancy wants us to believe her bill is all about people over corporations, it probably should have $600 million going to the National Endowment for Arts (which I had never heard of before). Probably shouldn't have $36 million going to the JFK Museum of Arts. Probably shouldn't have money going towards the climate crisis. I mean, get freaking real.

Instead of using this crisis to try to win political battles, why can't they just try to help the country? Make a bill that ONLY focuses on getting money out to employees, and business owners. Forget the climate ****. Forget taxes. Forget helping your buddies business.

And it's crazy that people like Thriller and Political Jazz Fan can only discuss the most biased views of their side. Again, act like an adult you idiotic children. Now isn't the time for Republican vs Democrat. Now is the time to help your neighbor, whether you like them or not.

Assholes.
You've never heard of the National Endowment for the Arts? Holy ****! How big is the rock you live under?
 

RandyForRubio

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You've never heard of the National Endowment for the Arts? Holy ****! How big is the rock you live under?

Apparently quite large.

I am but a simple man who doesn't understand why $600 million to the Endowment for Arts will help fight the Corona virus.

Apparently it's annual budget is around $150 million. So 4x their annual budget is what they would get here. That sounds about right, lol.
 

fishonjazz

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It should be possible, and even reasonable, that people can say these certain things:

- The Republican bill is offering too much that we are just unsure about? Will enough money get to the employees and small business owners? We cannot have a means test for getting money. Doesn't make any sense.

- The Democrats are using the crisis to try to fund certain things they want. I mean, they've openly admitted it. In a time like this, it's deplorable. I'm sure the Republicans are doing the same thing. Again, deplorable. Act like adults and try to help the country you're serving.

- If Nancy wants us to believe her bill is all about people over corporations, it probably should have $600 million going to the National Endowment for Arts (which I had never heard of before). Probably shouldn't have $36 million going to the JFK Museum of Arts. Probably shouldn't have money going towards the climate crisis. I mean, get freaking real.

Instead of using this crisis to try to win political battles, why can't they just try to help the country? Make a bill that ONLY focuses on getting money out to employees, and business owners. Forget the climate ****. Forget taxes. Forget helping your buddies business.

And it's crazy that people like Thriller and Political Jazz Fan can only discuss the most biased views of their side. Again, act like an adult you idiotic children. Now isn't the time for Republican vs Democrat. Now is the time to help your neighbor, whether you like them or not.

Assholes.
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The Thriller

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I’m just curious, where are you guys getting all of these details about the bills being debated when I see senators complaining about not knowing the details?

Anyone have links?

the link I posted earlier today explained the reservations that Democrats had on giving Donald his slush fund. Resent nearly as detailed as some of your posts. Where are y’all getting your information?
 

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