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Joe Bagadonuts said:
This seems to be very good information, but it doesn't address what I see as a very large concern. What was Burisma paying Hunter Biden for? What work did he do? What expertise did he have? Why won't he answer questions to that effect? Is it reasonable to believe that his father has never had a conversation with him regarding his work in the Ukraine? I don't believe for a second that anyone on the left would be okay leaving these sorts of questions unanswered if they related to the dealings of a conservative politician. We'd be getting lectures on how their silence on these matters is proof of their guilt.
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I wouldn't give a **** if Ted Cruz kid worked for another country.

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Zombie said:
What influence did Biden provide? Aside from pushing to get prosecutors who were willing to pursue corruption charges.

As for Shokin's corruption, you don't have to take our word for it. The current Ukrainian president plans to investigate him and other former prosecutors for their supposed corruption. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about the entire situation in the months to come.
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If I Biden was a conservative I am confident you would have no difficulty figuring out why the whole deal smells rotten.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
This seems to be very good information, but it doesn't address what I see as a very large concern. What was Burisma paying Hunter Biden for? What work did he do? What expertise did he have? Why won't he answer questions to that effect? Is it reasonable to believe that his father has never had a conversation with him regarding his work in the Ukraine? I don't believe for a second that anyone on the left would be okay leaving these sorts of questions unanswered if they related to the dealings of a conservative politician. We'd be getting lectures on how their silence on these matters is proof of their guilt.
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I addressed this in a previous post: it's not particularly uncommon for board members to be from lots of different industries because they aren't involved in day to day management of the company. As a result, while your questions make a surface level sense, they aren't reflective of the reality of corporate governance.

Maybe an example would help illustrate this point. I picked a random large company about which I had no knowledge regarding board composition: General Motors.
https://www.gm.com/our-company/leadership/board-of-directors.html

The board includes:

1. A former GM Executive
2. A former chairman of a space exploration company
3. A former officer of Lockheed Martin
4. The former CEO of a Pharmaceuticals corporation.
5. A former investment officer from Harvard
6. Someone from Henry Kissinger's geopolitical consulting firm
7. The chairman of Hewlett Packard
8. A former Wal-Mart officer
9. An executive of a diesel engine company
10. A dean of a canadian business school
11. The CEO of E-bay

I expect similar results if you do spot checks on lots of companies. Some have intuitive connections to the company's core business - many don't.

Rosemont had a relationship with Burisma. Hunter Biden worked for Rosemont. Burisma brought new board members on, including two high profile people from Rosemont. That's the whole story. I agree that board members getting paid as much as they do for their role is pretty much ********. Just one more distortion of the free market. :p
 
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fishonjazz said:
I believe Epstein epsteined Epstein

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So it makes sense to you that Thriller is suggesting that Trump is going to do that to this whistle blower? Are you aware of some sort of evidence that Trump goes around killing people?

And regarding getting Epsteined, it appears to me that no matter how he actually died there was someone who was trying to make it convenient for that to happen. Why did he have a bunk bed in a solitary room? Why wasn't anyone monitoring the most high profile prisoner in the joint? Why weren't his sheets tearaway? Committing suicide is quite a difficult thing to do, and it's nearly impossible if you don't have access to the right raw materials.
 
sirkickyass said:
I addressed this in a previous post: it's not particularly uncommon for board members to be from lots of different industries because they aren't involved in day to day management of the company. As a result, while your questions make a surface level sense, they aren't reflective of the reality of corporate governance.

Maybe an example would help illustrate this point. I picked a random large company about which I had no knowledge regarding board composition: General Motors.
https://www.gm.com/our-company/leadership/board-of-directors.html

The board includes:

1. A former GM Executive
2. A former chairman of a space exploration company
3. A former officer of Lockheed Martin
4. The former CEO of a Pharmaceuticals corporation.
5. A former investment officer from Harvard
6. Someone from Henry Kissinger's geopolitical consulting firm
7. The chairman of Hewlett Packard
8. A former Wal-Mart officer
9. An executive of a diesel engine company
10. A dean of a canadian business school
11. The CEO of E-bay

I expect similar results if you do spot checks on lots of companies. Some have intuitive connections to the company's core business - many don't.

Rosemont had a relationship with Burisma. Hunter Biden worked for Burisma. Burisma brought new board members on, including two high profile people from Rosemont. That's the whole story. I agree that board members getting paid as much as they do for their role is pretty much ********. Just one more distortion of the free market. :p
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Nothing in Hunter Biden's past record is in the stratosphere of any of those eleven people you pointed out at GM.
 
Zombie said:
Well, Trump wouldn't be releasing the transcripts without a messaging rollout that will trickle down to the GOP faithful, and find its way into the way the media reports on it.

I absolutely expect it to be a repeat of the Barr letter, the Democrats need to get ahead of this by not placing too much emphasis on the "transcript" when it's released as you've mentioned before.
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This is so ****ing funny. "Guys, we've got to be careful not to put too much emphasis on the actual basis for this complaint once we (and the whistle blower himself) finally get to see it. Remember, it's all about impeaching this guy no matter what."
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Nothing in Hunter Biden's past record is in the stratosphere of any of those eleven people you pointed out at GM.
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Burisma holdings also isn't exactly as prestigious as General Motors.

Tell you what, YOU pick a company that you think is roughly equivalent and we'll look at the board together. No peeking before you list a name! Fair is fair.
 
Enter this link to find out who your representative is. I’ve called my local representative here in Utah. I doubt he’ll ever vote to impeach but it’s worth a try to take Trump out and cleanse the White House. You can call and email your rep through that site.
 
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