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The Thriller said:
The Conway marriage is one that I can’t figure out. The only thing I can think of is either she shares her husbands opinions but sells out for her own financial well being or they’re merely married in name only. George has been vocally anti-Trump for a few years now.
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It's also possible that Kelly Ann is the Anonymous Op-Ed writer.
 
Russian newspaper breaking down how Russia was the ultimate winner of the American pullout - obtaining effectively control over 3/4ths of the territory that Turkey tried to take.

It's also a useful comparison between how Erdogan rolled Trump in negotiations and folded to Putin.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/10/23/losing-to-putin

The key thing to grasp here is that Erdogan lost a complicated game, but managed to save face. Turkey had to abandon nearly all the objectives of its Syria campaign, accepting just a fifth of the “gains” it wanted. Erdogan won control over just a small piece of Kurdish territory, losing any hope to expand this zone to a 19-mile strip of land along the entire border, which was the military's minimum objective. (Turkey had even entertained the possibility of occupying the entire northeastern third of Syria.)

Erdogan failed because he forgot the rules of modern “hybrid war”; Turkey didn’t pair the invasion with the necessary diplomatic and media cover, and it went to war with bad allies.

Almost effortlessly, the Syrian government and Russia gained the right to take control over almost a third of Syria’s territory, which until recently was in the hands of Kurdish politicians and their American allies. This was possible thanks to the withdrawal of American and European troops, which Damascus and Moscow sought unsuccessfully for years, and Recep Tayyip Erdogan finally achieved.
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fishonjazz said:
See those goalposts that were over here? Well, they are over there now.

Your defense is basically that the Trump's are just the smartest most talented people around and so they are already qualified for anything and everything. But you don't like Trump. You just see, unbiased btw, that Trump and anyone with his DNA are geniuses.

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Hey man... remember. I'm the neo-liberal that's coming for his guns and pirvately (un)paid healthcare
 


Methinks the number of Fox News addicts who actually believe that republicans were shut out of all of these hearings is unfortunately extremely high. I think many have taken Fox News’s narrative (Hannity especially) at face value and think all of these hearings have been run by Schiff, with zero republicans present, and with Democrats brainstorming with witnesses on how to come up with the most damaging story. You know, in order to lynch and complete the coup against trump, who’s completely innocent.

sadly, Gaetz will be seen as a hero to many of these.

the last 4-5 pages is evidence that people are still really poorly informed about the basics of this story.
 
The Thriller said:


Methinks the number of Fox News addicts who actually believe that republicans were shut out of all of these hearings is unfortunately extremely high. I think many have taken Fox News’s narrative (Hannity especially) at face value and think all of these hearings have been run by Schiff, with zero republicans present, and with Democrats brainstorming with witnesses on how to come up with the most damaging story. You know, in order to lynch and complete the coup against trump, who’s completely innocent.

sadly, Gaetz will be seen as a hero to many of these.

the last 4-5 pages is evidence that people are still really poorly informed about the basics of this story.
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Further illustrates cracks in the Republican party; Gaetz doesn't believe the members of his party are capable of representing them.
 
Remember when that woman called some of the racist supporters of trump, deplorable?

Or when that black president said that some people hold onto their bibles and guns?

and people lost their minds?

well... now we have this:



Who sounds more credible? Corrupt Gramps tweeting like a crazy person? Or the calm organized diplomats who are testifying of Gramps’ corruption?
 
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there are cracks in both parties. This is all madness. Both parties have taken politics to a whole new dangerous level. Guess who suffers? Us. Term limits baby.
 
You get a term limit and you get a term limit.... You Get a term limit.....

Obviously I believe it's better with limits than it is in the current state.
 
tedbundy said:
You get a term limit and you get a term limit.... You Get a term limit.....

Obviously I believe it's better with limits than it is in the current state.
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  • Why would term limits prevent or stop the president from using American foreign policy to blackmail other countries into manufacturing dirt on his opponents?
  • How would term limits stop or prevent the corruption found in the DOJ? Namely, a corrupt AG who clearly missed the boat when he attempted to bury this whistleblower complaint?
  • How would term limits stop the disinformation from Fox News?
  • How would term limits stop the radicalization of the GOP so that moderate candidates would succeed more in primaries instead of extremist candidates?
I think you're coming up with the wrong solution for the wrong problems. Not sure that term limits would have any effect on the "current state."
 
tedbundy said:
there are cracks in both parties. This is all madness. Both parties have taken politics to a whole new dangerous level. Guess who suffers? Us. Term limits baby.
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I haven't noticed any cracks in the Democratic party. What cracks are you referring to?
 
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