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silesian said:
Consistently, trump believes Putin and not US intel. he is the anti patriot. And a total moron. He believes whatever makes him look best despite overwhelming evidence.

I am not exaggerating when I say he will be among the top US traitorous villains of all time. Joe McCarthy, Booth, Benedict Arnold, Aaron burr, trump, john Anthony Walker, Mildred Gillars. His supporters will be forever tainted as anti Americans
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This is one of the most ignorant, ill-informed posts I've ever read on this web site. Congrats.
 
Catchall said:
This is one of the most ignorant, ill-informed posts I've ever read on this web site. Congrats.
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obviously you can’t refute it or you would.

just use the classic “I disagree with you opinion so you’re dumb” rebuttal.

come on, Reading your posts I know you’re not the sharpest knife, but you can do better than that. No?
 
silesian said:
obviously you can’t refute it or you would.

just use the classic “I disagree with you opinion so you’re dumb” rebuttal.

come on, Reading your posts I know you’re not the sharpest knife, but you can do better than that. No?
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YOur go to lol. The irony

Go Jazz
 
colton said:
You're not keeping up. Nearly everything you just wrote was false. I'll correct your understanding. All of my statements below are completely confirmed by multiple individuals, many of whom testified under oath.

  • Trump held back foreign aid to Ukraine -- True
  • until after several background conversations with Zellenskyy and his team. -- False. That's not what triggered the aid being released. See two bullet points below.
  • Fighting corruption was one of the topics discussed. -- False. Neither Trump nor others on Trump's behalf discussed fighting corruption. They discussed investigating Joe Biden's son. That's it. That's the only "corruption" that was discussed. Well, that plus a stupid conspiracy theory that's not even worth mentioning. Corruption in general was not discussed. For that matter, saying they "discussed investigating Joe Biden's son" like I just did is also inaccurate. Trump (and surrogates) didn't even care about investigating Biden's son. They just wanted an ANNOUNCEMENT saying that Biden's son was being investigated. That couldn't have cared less about actual investigation of corruption.
  • The Dems are now trying to spin this as "attempted bribery" on Trump's part. -- False. While a component relates to bribery, it's more closely related to extortion and abuse of power. And it's not just Democrats; the witnesses who have testified about the situation have been non partisan. And for example, I myself am a Republican.
  • However, it appears that no hard demands were made on Zellenskyy in relation to the Bidens, -- False. A hard demand was indeed made.
  • and the aid was released. -- Halfway True. The aid was released, but not until well after the whistle blower made his/her complaint. (Which, by the way, Trump was told about essentially right at the time.) And not until after "Three House committees launch a wide-ranging investigation into the allegations that Trump, his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and possibly others, tried to pressure the Ukrainian government to help the president’s reelection campaign by digging up dirt on a political rival." Two days after that, to be precise. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/curious-release-military-aid-ukraine-n1082256
  • It's a real reach. -- False. It's no reach at all. It's a clear violation of the law, and without a doubt contains many impeachable offenses therein.
  • It boils down to the Dems being pissed that Trump and the Justice Department are investigating corruption in Ukraine around 2016. -- False. That's not at all what this is about. Also, Trump did not involve the Justice Department in his demands for an investigation of the Bidens. This was a political "investigation", not one by the Justice Dept.
  • Biden was part of that, along with several others in the Obama State Dept. Some questions surrounding the Bidens are legitimate as part of that inquiry -- False. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden and/or his son. And even if there were, it would still be against the law for Trump to demand a foreign government investigate his political opponent by extorting them by withholding congressionally appropriated funds the way he did
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this is outstanding. Thank you for making things so clear.
 
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