The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[babe]

I'm sure this series of events will foment a lot of 20/20 hindsight questions. Things like:

1. We don't live in a post-World War II world any more. So why is the other side of the world so reliant upon the United States to keep the peace, rather than people/countries on their same continent?
2. Why did Ukraine not do more to militarize and protect themselves against this issue?
3. How could anyone believe that Putin would do anything differently than he's done, given his leadership history?
4. Will the world quietly take the nuclear "threats" that Putin is making?
5. When will the US eventually graduate to a country filled with citizens that identify as Americans, and not as some other ethnic group where their ancestry hails from - thereby creating some sort of larger affection for a country other than their own, and leading to groups of citizens demanding action by the US when it may not necessarily be the smartest thing long term for the country?
6. Who invented caviar and why?
7. Will baseball ever be played again?

And before you castrate me for asking the above questions - DON'T. THEY'RE JUST FREAKING QUESTIONS. You're welcome to theorize about them or even answer them from your perspective, but if you even so much as throw any shade at me for asking the questions that should be being asked from the perspective of a United States citizen, I will report your sorry tushy.

yah.

today. tomorrow. all spring and summer, to the world series in October.


Russians. In cold weather, a big calorie boost. Something to do with the stuff.

OK, from the top. WWII was the mother of the UN, and a lot of arrangements worldwide. Globalism's birth.

2. Lots of pretensions about diplomacy.

3. I believed he was smarter than this. But maybe he is, and I'm stupider than I thought.

4. Our politicians will absorb nukes rather than fund military stuff.

5. We will never graduate on those terms. We love being different somehow.

 

[babe]

So, Putin has gone into areas where the locals are '"on his side" whether that came about with his efforts or not. He is bombing military stuff, claiming to be reducing the capacities for civilian deaths. We don't have a response. Well, rhetoric, yes.

I think that means he knows he has the capacity to carry this out. Maybe he has some missiles or defenses capable of handling what we have.

He believes we will just negotiate.

He believes he will get a deal he wants.

He believes he will dictate the terms we will not want.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

1. We don't live in a post-World War II world any more. So why is the other side of the world so reliant upon the United States to keep the peace, rather than people/countries on their same continent?

Because if the United States provides the army then countries are less likely to build up their own making them less capable of waging war and the world gets some measure of peace through impotence.

2. Why did Ukraine not do more to militarize and protect themselves against this issue?

Because the United States gave them security assurances. Ukraine had thousands of Soviet-era nuclear weapons with a means to drop them on Moscow that would have very much discouraged what Putin is now doing but we asked them to give them up in exchange for security assurances which we are now pretending we never made.

3. How could anyone believe that Putin would do anything differently than he's done, given his leadership history?

Because Trump kept him in check and some wrongly believed Putin had changed rather than giving Trump credit.

4. Will the world quietly take the nuclear "threats" that Putin is making?

Yes, and they'll start nuclear weapons programs of their own because see the answer to #2.

5. When will the US eventually graduate to a country filled with citizens that identify as Americans, and not as some other ethnic group where their ancestry hails from - thereby creating some sort of larger affection for a country other than their own, and leading to groups of citizens demanding action by the US when it may not necessarily be the smartest thing long term for the country?

Progressivism is here until the end I fear.

6. Who invented caviar and why?

Fish and they invented it because little fish have to come from somewhere so it might as well be delicious.

7. Will baseball ever be played again?

Yup.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

 

[str8line]

Nothing like a martyr story to rally the troops. Snake Island.

 

[Gameface]

Mods, please change the title of this thread to "The *OFFICIAL* Russia Has Invaded Ukraine Thread"

TIA

 

[Avery]

Pretty clear evidence that Russia won’t hesitate to target citizens that they want to ‘liberate’.

Ukraine is overmatched unfortunately. I just wonder how long they can hold out.

 

[Gameface]

I'm afraid for what this will mean going forward.

The end of WWII was supposed to be the end of bigger nations taking over smaller ones just because they can.

I do think this puts massive pressure on Taiwan as China has been edging towards retaking it since broke away in the first place but Xi seems particularly focused on making an actual move possible. If I had to guess what's on the top of his bucket list it would be reuniting Taiwan.

The arguments Putin has made about Ukraine actually being part of Russia are even more true in regard to Taiwan and China.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm afraid for what this will mean going forward.

The end of WWII was supposed to be the end of bigger nations taking over smaller ones just because they can.

I do think this puts massive pressure on Taiwan as China has been edging towards retaking it since broke away in the first place but Xi seems particularly focused on making an actual move possible. If I had to guess what's on the top of his bucket list it would be reuniting Taiwan.

The arguments Putin has made about Ukraine actually being part of Russia are even more true in regard to Taiwan and China.

It's scary stuff. Wife was like "man I hate what the world is right now". I told her right now might be the best it is for a while... or ever.

Sometimes I think Aliens planted us here and then they watch how stupid and greedy we can get until we eventually annihilate ourselves... Like an alien Squid Game where they bet about a nuclear holocaust and who will set it off or will it be us destroying the climate.

 

[leftyjace]

Because if the United States provides the army then countries are less likely to build up their own making them less capable of waging war and the world gets some measure of peace through impotence.

Because the United States gave them security assurances. Ukraine had thousands of Soviet-era nuclear weapons with a means to drop them on Moscow that would have very much discouraged what Putin is now doing but we asked them to give them up in exchange for security assurances which we are now pretending we never made.

Because Trump kept him in check and some wrongly believed Putin had changed rather than giving Trump credit.

Yes, and they'll start nuclear weapons programs of their own because see the answer to #2.

Progressivism is here until the end I fear.

Fish and they invented it because little fish have to come from somewhere so it might as well be delicious.

Yup.

Well…
That didn’t exactly go as planned.

 

[LogGrad98]

I'm sure this series of events will foment a lot of 20/20 hindsight questions. Things like:

1. We don't live in a post-World War II world any more. So why is the other side of the world so reliant upon the United States to keep the peace, rather than people/countries on their same continent?
2. Why did Ukraine not do more to militarize and protect themselves against this issue?
3. How could anyone believe that Putin would do anything differently than he's done, given his leadership history?
4. Will the world quietly take the nuclear "threats" that Putin is making?
5. When will the US eventually graduate to a country filled with citizens that identify as Americans, and not as some other ethnic group where their ancestry hails from - thereby creating some sort of larger affection for a country other than their own, and leading to groups of citizens demanding action by the US when it may not necessarily be the smartest thing long term for the country?
6. Who invented caviar and why?
7. Will baseball ever be played again?

And before you castrate me for asking the above questions - DON'T. THEY'RE JUST FREAKING QUESTIONS. You're welcome to theorize about them or even answer them from your perspective, but if you even so much as throw any shade at me for asking the questions that should be being asked from the perspective of a United States citizen, I will report your sorry tushy.

God invented caviar, in order to produce more sturgeon and other fish. Baseball has never really been played, it is the 2nd most boring "sport" on the planet and barely qualifies as more than a walk in the park. Oh noes I had to run 50 feet one time in an hour and a half!

 

[LogGrad98]

It's scary stuff. Wife was like "man I hate what the world is right now". I told her right now might be the best it is for a while... or ever.

Sometimes I think Aliens planted us here and then they watch how stupid and greedy we can get until we eventually annihilate ourselves... Like an alien Squid Game where they bet about a nuclear holocaust and who will set it off or will it be us destroying the climate.