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And tax it. You want MJ, fine, you pay a tax like anything else.

I don’t want a junkie peddling speed outside of an elementary, but stop filling up the justice system with non-violent offenders.
And let me grow my own! It's a ****ing plant for God's sake.

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And let me grow my own! It's a ****ing plant for God's sake.

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Exactly. Grow your own if you want just like you can roll your own cigs or make your own brews. You want to sell it to somebody of legal age, you can just like tobacco or alcohol. Just pay the taxes like you normally should and if you sell to someone underage or don't pay taxes, we already have laws for that. No jail, just fine your ***.

Ask Colorado how much their school districts receive off the taxation of marijuana yet Denver somehow isn't a cesspool - imagine that.
 
There is no need to have all police officers carry guns and especially no need to have armed officers respond to every call.

If we, as a society, are asking police officers to respond to potentially dangerous situations, where someone may have a gun, I don't think we can ask them to do that without being equipped with a firearm. Just my opinion.
 
stop filling up the justice system with non-violent offenders.

It's astonishing how many people we incarcerate in this country.

Incarcerated citizens as of 2020:

United States - 2,193,798
China - 1,548,498
India - 332,112
Germany - 77,166

Food for thought. China and Indian have a combined population of about 2.8 billion. We have more incarcerated people than those two countries, combined. So the United States, which is roughly 12% the size of those two countries combined, has more people in prison.

Germany has roughly 25% of the population the US does, yet it only has 77K people incarcerated? France has similar figures.

I'm having a hard time coming to terms with these numbers.
 
If we, as a society, are asking police officers to respond to potentially dangerous situations, where someone may have a gun, I don't think we can ask them to do that without being equipped with a firearm. Just my opinion.
One of the scariest nights I've ever had was when I had to help step into a domestic dispute between my elderly female neighbor and her druggy son. It was really loud and there was violent threats... called the police and walked over... I was unarmed and terrified. Felt like I needed to get there before police could. Luckily he chilled out and just left.

Probably the type of **** they deal with on the daily... they need to protect themselves too... can't turn them into mall cops and ask them to solve these types of issues.
 
One of the scariest nights I've ever had was when I had to help step into a domestic dispute between my elderly female neighbor and her druggy son. It was really loud and there was violent threats... called the police and walked over... I was unarmed and terrified. Felt like I needed to get there before police could. Luckily he chilled out and just left.

Probably the type of **** they deal with on the daily... they need to protect themselves too... can't turn them into mall cops and ask them to solve these types of issues.
So, you managed to defuse the situation without pulling a gun?
 
It's astonishing how many people we incarcerate in this country.

Incarcerated citizens as of 2020:

United States - 2,193,798
China - 1,548,498
India - 332,112
Germany - 77,166

Food for thought. China and Indian have a combined population of about 2.8 billion. We have more incarcerated people than those two countries, combined. So the United States, which is roughly 12% the size of those two countries combined, has more people in prison.

Germany has roughly 25% of the population the US does, yet it only has 77K people incarcerated? France has similar figures.

I'm having a hard time coming to terms with these numbers.
India is a bad comparison as crime and corruption are rampant.
 
If we, as a society, are asking police officers to respond to potentially dangerous situations, where someone may have a gun, I don't think we can ask them to do that without being equipped with a firearm. Just my opinion.

We have some middle ground to find here, I don't think we can go as far as a lot of other nations due to our general gun/violent culture, but there's at least some places to start.

I'm not sure when y'all came through our schools, but I remember the pat downs from strapped officers coming to school. All they ever found was some kids weed, why were these officers armed?
 
Exactly. Trump and his sock puppets are naturally shouting that evil Democrats want to have no law enforcement of any kind, but that's a huge red herring. The point of defunding and disbanding is to create something new that accomplishes what the current system has failed to do. I don't think anyone can possibly argue that the current policing system has been successful.

There is no need to have all police officers carry guns and especially no need to have armed officers respond to every call. How ridiculous is it that school resource officers carry guns and bulletproof vests? And before anyone brings up school shootings, I'd like to point out how exceedingly rare they are but also what happened last time we had a major school shooting in Florida.

For entirely too long, policing has looked like pacification. Police officers have looked and behaved like an occupying army. Especially in minority areas and neighbourhoods. Probably the most infuriating way in which this manifests itself is the demand for absolute compliance and the lengths the police will go to get it. How often do you have ridiculous chases and police officers discharging weapons because a suspect was "going to get away?" In situations where said suspect might have been unarmed, was not posing an immediate danger to the public, or was not even the person they were looking for? That's okay. If they run, you can shoot. If they try to pass what might have been a fake 20, you can kneel on their neck until they die.

I don't know if these attitudes can be fixed with more training and oversight. I think it needs to be blown up and replaced by something new.

Who are those egghead intellectual dollies of the so-called Commie Left?? Cloward-Piven strategy. Burn the world down so we can build it right.

It's pretty clear there's major funding going into these riots.

Riots have been waiting for a pretext, I think, for a long time.

The on-going deliberate build-up of this has made me go back and look again at the videos of the initial originating event, which almost everyone deplored instantly.

So I was in my old home town in Nevada once, on business, and a local competitor called on his police buddies to run me outta town. I was in the Hilton, and went out into the parking lot to take care of some things. Somebody drove up in a truck and asked me if I was selling my stuff. I said "Not Here". He asked my price, I said "$5000--but in California". He hit the gas and drove off, and five police cruisers raced in to surround me. Jacked my arm and threw me on the asphalt, and told me to stay outta their town. I didn't even get mad. I stayed polite, did what they asked. Some of the other officers got cautious and startede advising they back off. I have never been back. But these officers got a con to try to bait me, gave him counts off his charges or something, and used force without provocation, and did a completely illegal stop and harassment.

I'm not really inclined to idolize police officers who have been to some extent corrupted or trained to use impudent or arrogant tactics, or indoctrinated versus the public so they are mentally destabilized against violating human rights for their career. I just know I need to take care not to trigger them, alright.

But in looking at the video, I'm pretty sure the victim was on meth, with fentanyl to boot. He forced the officers to lay hands on him, and they were not able to cuff him. That is why the idiot cop put his knee on the neck. I think they did get the cuffs on, and the prick sat there to gloat way too long. But it was the fentanyl that killed him, and the officers failed to administer the indicated antidote.

What we have going on here is the deliberate take-down of our police with the intent to replace it with political provocateurs of the highest order. We will see a chant go out for "Strong Cities" with less human rights respected, not more.

This is a beginning of policed insurrection, not an end to a stupid riot.
 
I don't think 'defunding the police' is the right move and I don't like the terminology either - it just leads to people saying lawlessness like Tucker Carlson which isn't an option. We're not going full The Purge here.

Instead, police should respond to things that need their assistance. We ask our officers to wear too many hats - trying to put together witness reports for a mild car accident, going to a school to talk about DARE, responding to a dispute when a guy locks his girlfriend outside of the house, etc. It's simply a drain on resources and officers.

Instead, send the right person to the job. Police should involve themselves when the risk of escalation is high. Let others handle fender benders and help a motorist unlock their car. Give officers primary, secondary and tertiary skills when there's an overflow of assistance needed. Give consistent counseling, psychological profiles, etc. This isn't unreasonable.
 
There is no need to have all police officers carry guns and especially no need to have armed officers respond to every call. How ridiculous is it that school resource officers carry guns and bulletproof vests? And before anyone brings up school shootings, I'd like to point out how exceedingly rare they are but also what happened last time we had a major school shooting in Florida.

Wait, is this real life? You can't be serious.

The fact of the matter is it's completely unpredictable when officers will need guns and when they do, they need them. That's just a fact.

The problems with officers is they use them all too often when they don't need to. The majority of officers never fire their weapon - 73%. There needs to be better training and require more education to become a police officer. That and there needs to be accountability. Officers need to have body cams on 100% of the time, if not, it compromises the innocent e.g. Amaurie Johnson.


I hate guns as much as the next guy, but until the public doesn't have them, cops need them.
 
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