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Trump abandons Kurdish allies to Turkish invasion

Leftist means fascist.

“Post-truth is pre-fascism.”
― Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

It is Trump who is attempting to usher in a Post Truth era of "alternative facts" and identifying as "fake news" any news, or any opinions, that differ from his own. This is what fascists do. They attempt to strangle an independent press, they repeat lies under the belief that if you repeat lies often enough, they are believed. Truth is the first casualty of a fascist regime, and wherever you want to place Trump on the political spectrum, it sure isn't "leftist".
 
Well, I could define "leftist" for you, but you did such a wonderful job of redefining "Nationalist" for me that I seriously doubt you need my help. But let me take a stab at it.

Leftist means fascist.

Dont play that game. We’re better off without it.
 
Erdogan is an irrational dictator but I like you. You’ve now moved into fourth on my like list

1.NAOS
2.#Franklin
3.One Brow
4.Zombie

While I'm not sure how I feel about abandoning the Kurds (good to be out, bad to leave them to Erdogan), my heart was touched by this.
 
Here they are taking down that fascist old woman in a walker trying to cross the street. She was likely to kill dozens if she ever left the crosswalk. . .

So, to support the notion that antifa are violent, you offered a selectively clipped video without a single act of violence?
 
Criticizing people for not self-reflecting and never changing views is dumb. I’ll never understand it. So yes @framer, new information, job, experience, and a horribly corrupt president can cause our views to change and become more nuanced over a period of 5 years.

When I first started posting in prior editions of this board, I was probably older than the The Thriller is now, and I've revised my opinions on many topics since then. You're never too old to learn to be better, and think more carefully.
 
There was a discussion a while back that I had with @Gameface where I admitted that I’ve changed my views on American international presence. Over the past decade or so we went the rounds over American intervention. At times it became heated over things like the Iraqi war. However, I think both of us have adjusted our views due to new information and experiences. As my research and job right now is oriented towards American history, I’ve come to see American intervention in a less cynical and pessimistic light.

Before you criticize me for flip flopping because of Trump, I’ll freely admit Trump has had an impact on my thinking. I think his presidency has shown the need for America to lead in a positive way. Imagine how much different things would’ve been if he had supported Ukraine in a positive and less self-serving way. So yes, as I’ve stated on this board in the past few years, my views on American intervention have changed since 2015 or hell 2004, when I first began posting on the board. Back then I remember we had debates about gay marriage. I remember hesitancy on my part to legalize that. But that was before I attended college and gained the necessary introspection to change views taught to me in a (mormon) conservative environment.

Trump’s presidency should have caused us all to reflect harder on executive orders, the checks and balances of government, and what it means to be an American. That’s not herd or team mentality. That’s not what’s causing problems in our society today. It’s called learning from experience. If anything, our society lacks introspection.

Criticizing people for not self-reflecting and never changing views is dumb. I’ll never understand it. So yes @framer, new information, job, experience, and a horribly corrupt president can cause our views to change and become more nuanced over a period of 5 years.

Yeah, except every time you "change" views, it correlates EXACTLY to what MSNBC is telling you. It lines up exactly to what the Democrat party NEEDS you to believe. Don't pretend that adopting the party line is "evolution."
 
Yeah, except every time you "change" views, it correlates EXACTLY to what MSNBC is telling you. It lines up exactly to what the Democrat party NEEDS you to believe. Don't pretend that adopting the party line is "evolution."

I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve watched a show on MSNBC in five years. Out of all the outside sources that influence my life, MSNBC is probably one of the least influential.

I’ve already explained what has caused me to adjust or change my views on some issues, most notably probably has been American intervention. Doing postgrad work, growing older, and reading more (I’ll admit, many of you have provided really influential posts) might have that introspection effect. You should try it sometime. Instead of mocking someone for this, why not try it out?

What’s the “Democrat” party?
 
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What’s the “Democrat” party?
What does it mean to be Republican? Or Conservative?

I thought I knew these definitions, but the 2016 election cycle made me aware that I had no clue.

I know Romney thinks being "conservative" means allowing corporations to maximize profits by offshoring manufacturing jobs and importing a cheaper workforce through legal and illegal means. I think I'm conservative, but I'm not that kind of conservative.

Lindsey Graham thinks being "conservative" means being okay with armed intervention in any country, for any reason. After all, how can anyone argue against us standing up for 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way'? (I wonder where these "conservatives" were when Pol Pot was killing 2 million Cambodians, and we did nothing?) Well, I no longer belong to that conservative group either.

So maybe I'm no longer a Conservative or a Republican. And the 2020 Democratic candidates for president are in the process of redefining what it means to be a Democrat; I guess they will get back to us when they've reached a consensus.
 
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