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Nikola Mirotic

If we go for Mirotic that ends the tank does it not? If they do that wouldn't the smart course be to go all in on the playoffs? Adding Mirotic makes us better offensively and to good to likely make any real head way on the tank I'd think...
**** the tank. Get Mirotic and Hill and GTFO of the lottery.
 
Nothing has said he has requested Snyder. In fact, nothing has even been reported about Mirotic and Snyder. It said he was intrigued by Utah, then editorial says Snyder maximizes offense. Now, perhaps he does feel that way and/or has made that request, but all we know so far is he’s “intrigued.” Would be curious what that means.
Why else would Mirotic be intrigued by Utah? Because he loves mountains?

It's just a pretty logical conclusion that he likes Utah because of Snyder's offensive system, which fits his game. Another reason could be Rubio, since they are both on the Spanish National Team. IDK if they are friends or w/e, but there is that connection. Hill came here and blew up. You put competent offensive players who can shoot and are high IQ in Utah and they do well.
 
Mirotic @ $12.5M >> Jabari @ $25M.
Yeah, but that's only for 1 more year after this current one. If Mirotic is in fact a bonafide starter who averages 16 points on good shooting, he is probably costing at least 16 million a year, maybe more, I think a lot of teams will have cap-space in 2019.

Just saying that comparison isnt fair. It's going to be a high number for Mirotic (if he plays well).
 
**** the tank. Get Mirotic and Hill and GTFO of the lottery.

Two trades?

One centered on Favors for Mirotic and another around Rubio/Burks and Hill?

Gobert/Udoh
Mirotic/Jerebko
Ingles/Sefolosha
Mitchell/Hood
Hill/Neto/Exum

Roughly...
 
Why else would Mirotic be intrigued by Utah? Because he loves mountains?

It's just a pretty logical conclusion that he likes Utah because of Snyder's offensive system, which fits his game. Another reason could be Rubio, since they are both on the Spanish National Team. IDK if they are friends or w/e, but there is that connection. Hill came here and blew up. You put competent offensive players who can shoot and are high IQ in Utah and they do well.

you put a competent offensive player who can shoot and are high IQ do well anywhere.

Hill did blow up though, and his ego probably blew up because of it. Now hes in sacramento playing for the guy made his GM draft STAUSKUS? STAUSKUS?!
 
Yeah, but that's only for 1 more year after this current one. If Mirotic is in fact a bonafide starter who averages 16 points on good shooting, he is probably costing at least 16 million a year, maybe more, I think a lot of teams will have cap-space in 2019.

Just saying that comparison isnt fair. It's going to be a high number for Mirotic (if he plays well).

Ok, then. Mirotic @ $16M > Jabari @ $25M.

Two trades?

One centered on Favors for Mirotic and another around Rubio/Burks and Hill?

Gobert/Udoh
Mirotic/Jerebko
Ingles/Sefolosha
Mitchell/Hood
Hill/Neto/Exum

Roughly...

This guy gets it.
 
you put a competent offensive player who can shoot and are high IQ do well anywhere.
Ehh, not really. Some systems just don't let players handle the ball and playmake like Quin does.

Like Mirotic is more than just a spot-up shooter, he can actually do some things with the ball. I think when the team had Butler/Rose then later Butler/Wade/Rondo he just never got the ball.
 
Ok, then. Mirotic @ $16M > Jabari @ $25M.



This guy gets it.
Well my point was we have no idea of knowing what Mirotic's figure would be. It's a George Hill situation, and we saw how that can turn ugly.

And if Parker is a star, then he's worth 25 million and way more valuable than Mirotic. The real equation is if what it takes to acquire and pay Parker is worth it compared to what it takes to acquire and pay Mirotic.
 
hmmmmmmmm, anybody wondering how and why mirotic requested the jazz?

what if the bulls FO told mirotic to specifically request snyder because they are really after something we have?

Well... for one, he plays for the Spanish National Team with a certain point guard. Namely, Rubio. Also, the Jazz have been selling an All Euro team and Euro style of basketball. Due to the intl flavor of the team, I bet he would love to play here with a point guard who fed him to a Gold medal in 2016 and who let him to be the MVP of the tourney. Just saying.

If Chicago wants a 1st round pick for him, we won't be that team. But if another team is involved that wants expiring contracts, then I could see Clarkson/2020 LA 1st to Chicago, Mirotic to the Jazz, Favors and a Jazz second rounder to LA. ESPECIALLY if Mirotic plays hard ball by not waiving his no trade clause without going to a specific team.
 
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PS. I think that Mirotic is a great fit for us. We expiremented with the All Defense team and it fell short given the first half of the season. So, we need to get back to a more balanced squad IMHO. Mirotic can do that. We have 'lock down' lineups that we can put in. But we need Offensive lineups to boost scoring when everything goes silent.
 
Mirotic would have so many people excited if were closer to .500. Instead, we have to weigh the tank vs the chances of becoming a 7 or 6 seed.

I think Mirotic fits really well here; I just don't know how we get him without going with a 3rd team.
 
Well... for one, he plays for the Spanish National Team with a certain point guard. Namely, Rubio. Also, the Jazz have been selling an All Euro team and Euro style of basketball. Due to the intl flavor of the team, I bet he would love to play here with a point guard who fed him to a Gold medal in 2016 and who let him to be the MVP of the tourney. Just saying.

If Chicago wants a 1st round pick for him, we won't be that team. But if another team is involved that wants expiring contracts, then I could see Clarkson/2020 LA 1st to Chicago, Mirotic to the Jazz, Favors to LA. ESPECIALLY if Mirotic plays hard ball by not waiving his no trade clause without going to a specific team.
Yes, it basically comes down to if anyone is willing to give up a 1st for Mirotic, because Utah isnt.

I dont think Mirotic is that picky about where he goes to force a trade to Utah.
 
favors is a great defensive player still.

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Well my point was we have no idea of knowing what Mirotic's figure would be. It's a George Hill situation, and we saw how that can turn ugly.

And if Parker is a star, then he's worth 25 million and way more valuable than Mirotic. The real equation is if what it takes to acquire and pay Parker is worth it compared to what it takes to acquire and pay Mirotic.
Getting Parker would require quite a bit of shuffling just to take the risk of an offer sheet (unless we could trade for him, in which case I'm not certain what we could offer to make that work). I still think Mirotic would provide enough bang for the buck (even on a new contract) that it doesn't hamper us from getting another serious contributor as I believe it probably would with Jabari.
 
ummm...

why not just offer some peanuts for him. If he likes quin snyder then we can get him in the FA if he proves to be worth it this year and next year. Then he's a FA.
 
ummm...

why not just offer some peanuts for him. If he likes quin snyder then we can get him in the FA if he proves to be worth it this year and next year. Then he's a FA.
Because we need him for our title run this year.

Mods, please sticky the playoff bus thread when we get Mirotic and rename it the Title-run Train.
 
I do love the growing favorable view of Utah that we are seeing among players. We now have another ex-Jazzman in Hill speaking highly of Utah. And now another player in Mirotic that is open and willing, according to rumors, to come to Utah. Add to this players like Booker, Carroll, DWill and others that have recently had very good things to say about Utah.

DL and Snyder have been fantastic for this franchise for that reason alone.
 
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