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We’ll be fine. Trump’s got this.

It's not just Trump. It's the CDC and possibly FEMA (if things keep heading in this direction). If it were me though, I'd be ready to put the entire country on hiatus, at least certain states, if/when the spread grows much from where it is now. I think they're reluctant to close shop for a few hundred cases and a handful of fatalities, but if the spread doubles or triples again, they may have to put their foot down. We're getting close to losing containment.
 
It's not just Trump. It's the CDC and possibly FEMA (if things keep heading in this direction). If it were me though, I'd be ready to put the entire country on hiatus, at least certain states, if/when the spread grows much from where it is now. I think they're reluctant to close shop for a few hundred cases and a handful of fatalities, but if the spread doubles or triples again, they may have to put their foot down. We're getting close to losing containment.

Trump already has profound influence over the CDC. Or have you not read any of the reports of CDC workers being overridden by Trump? Since Fox News didn’t tell you, I’ll provide:



When you have an anti-science moron who’s more concerned about his November election overriding the scientists at the CDC, a pandemic is guaranteed. He shouldn’t be in charge of anything, let alone our country’s response to coronavirus.

But people like you wanted to “shake things up.”
 
Quite honestly, are we surprised by this? Trump has limped along for nearly four years. He’s made a mess of literally everything issue he’s had to handle. Whether it be health care, Hurricane Maria (remember when he shot paper towels at Puerto Ricans), Helsinki, budgets, immigration reform that he messed up (******** countries), Iran, North Korea, Taliban on 9/11, and Ukraine. Every day his presidency has been a lesson on how unqualified and incompetent he is. If it weren’t for the alt reality created by Fox News he would’ve been impeached and removed or pressured to resign a long time ago.

finally, it’s all catching up to him. Barr or Mitch can’t save his *** now. He can’t gaslight this nation through this, as he’s done countless times before. Sadly, a lot of Americans are going to hurt from the incompetence of our president.

example 12,348,847 of the alt reality created by Fox News. But this alt reality bubble is soon going to burst:



 
President is irrelevant? Why would his secretary say this?



and you don’t think telling the american public to “stay at work” won’t have detrimental effects in combating this disease?
 
The only way to guard against this is to shut the country down for 2 - 3 weeks. Close schools, businesses, cancel travel, cancel events. Reduce public transportation to a minimum for emergencies. Call it a national holiday.

The problem continues to be that people are asymptomatic and are spreading the virus for 1 - 3 weeks before they know they have it. Tests are only being given to people with clear symptoms and other "risk factors" such as travel to infected areas or contact with another known case, but that won't work. So you either shut the country down like it's Christmas or you let it go and take it in the shorts.

Under these conditions, everything from going to the grocery store, to buying coffee at Starbucks, to going to work, or riding in an elevator, etc. puts a person at risk of exposure.

What's taking place now isn't solving anything, it's just documenting a small part of the problem reactively.

The plus side here is that it will run it's course in a shorter time frame, and the remaining population will be effectively strengthened against it with some level of immunity, even old folks and diabetics. The down side is how hard it is on some, the death of some. In the US I don't think it will be 1% (3.8 Million dead) like early stats are showing because there will be better care for the affected. I don't think it will get to 100,000 either. 10,000. Mostly people already on death's doorstep, within a year or two of going anyway, I mean seriously ailing people already.

It can be stopped by practical measures on the buses, planes, ships, stores, jobs, hotels/casinos/movie theatres/churches. Even asymptomatic folks can hang back a few feet doing business, wear masks, and use some airborne disinfectant aerosol in crowded places. I don't think our crisis management team is understanding all that very well. Every administrator of every public venue should be looking for ways to kill the virus airborn and on surfaces with aerosol disinfectant vapors like chlorine and ozone, and installing uv lights over chechout counters in stores and other strategic spots.

But overall, the "managed response" under Trump is exactly the same as the bureaucrats would be doing under Obama or Biden. Trump is actually irrelevant. Sure he tweets his passing thoughts a lot, but decision is already set to go with the professionals. People picking over Trumps twets or whatever, looking for some way to make it seem irresponsible will have a lot of ammo, but they will be indulging in a senseless, stupid, ignorant, unproductive campaign in doing so.

Thriller disputes the "well-managed" term I deployed. Wants to make this a DumpTrump fearmonger thread. Trump wants positive action, and he might push for stuff more than an Obama or Biden, might try to do more..... but all that stuff will be inconsequential.

The one thing that will really make a difference is the public awareness. Panic and Fear are not really appropriate, though..... just informed actions/measures/ precautions everyone can take for themselves. What people will do for themselves is 10X the effect anything the gov can do.
 
President is irrelevant? Why would his secretary say this?



and you don’t think telling the american public to “stay at work” won’t have detrimental effects in combating this disease?


This kind of rhetoric is like speed bumps in business districts. Pointless, but necessary "public calming" feel good blurbs.

Trump gave the reigns to Pence, is stepping aside and letting our professionals do what the plans seem to call for, for better or worse. I don't think what is going on will be materially affected by any of his tweets. Everybody knows Trump tweets are only intended to punch back at critics, and that regardless of this, the reality is something else..... firm directives to every underling to step up and handle stuff as they know they should. He is not micro-managing this.
 
So rarely will a person confirm a lack of knowledge in so few words. Flu is not a coronavirus.

Are you nuts?

Why make meaningless distinctions. Airborne respiratory crap is "the flu" whatever the exact virus causing it. And I didn't say CoViD-19 is Influenza A or B or whatever the hell you demand according to your dictionary

I've heard a lot of people calling this one "the flu" or flu-like, even doctors.

Other specific Coronavirus stuff have always been compared to the flu and described as "The Flu" in generic terms..

CDC posts a pic and diagram about flu viruses....

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/keyfacts.htm




and Coronavirus....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html

There are important differences, but the same general concerns regarding vaccine as a treatment, common symptoms generally. Fair enough to lump them all in a single sentence when stating a common reality.
 
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When you say "we" I wonder what the **** you mean.

No you don't.

JFC groupies might be mostly a tight little band of nitwits, but Thriller is pretending to instruct the passersbys and occasional non-groupy audience of maybe two, even three, who are not already on the team. Pretty silly, really. Almost as silly as me posting replies to people who have me on Ignore, but hey.... that is what JFC is all about, and you know it.
 
So..... there is the little DumpTrump media/agitator wreckage, still stuttering ,sputtering ,spinning useless wheels

Gonna pin the Coronavirus, hell all virus disease, on Trump and finally stop his unholy stolen Presidency.

Like he should have been there to stop it at Patient Zero, taking one for the country and giving up his whole life for us. Speaking of Jesus, you don't even believe in Jesus.

Back seat drivers in the political world. Criticizing whatever he does, or doesn't do, and making all the noise you can.

Political wonks with another club du jour for rousing the dusty little peeps to the high pitch annoyance it takes to turn off the TV or sign outta JFC.
 
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