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JimLes said:
"Dr. Yamin is an engineer, not a physician."

I stopped reading right there. If there's anything worse than morons with no education talking ****, it's morons with irrelevant education talking ****.
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@JimLes @One Brow @Gameface You all need to read the entire article. It explains why engineers are better at predicting models than physicians. This person has helped create models in Liberia to quell ebola outbreaks. He did postdoctoral work at the the Center of Infectious Disease Modeling and Analysis at Yale University’s school of public health. He has quite a bit of experience in the field.
Yamin currently heads the Laboratory for Epidemic Modeling and Analysis in TAU’s engineering faculty. His primary field of work is development of models for the spread of infectious diseases, with an emphasis on viruses responsible for respiratory ailments, such as flu and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus), which causes bronchitis. He is actually somewhat optimistic about the models he has developed for the spread of the coronavirus, which is also a respiratory disease.
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Sounds like is more than qualified to speak on the subject.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you have links to anyone actually saying this, or are you just making it up?
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The cure is worse than the disease. And yes, there are many people who are saying that the economic hardships outweigh the actions necessary to save lives. And this is precisely what they mean.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
It’s a foregone conclusion.

We had 13,000 new cases yesterday. We have 12,600+ already today.

We went from 819 deaths yesterday at 1:45pm to 1,100 today. That’s a 34% increase which isn’t an anomaly.


At a 22% increase each day, we’ll be at 1,158,742 deaths come May 1.

The rate won’t stay that high for five weeks but it very well could for 3+ before starting to come down.
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You are assuming that our efforts to flatten the curve will be for naught. I hope you are wrong. But with all the a-holes who are saying "it is a hoax" and that are not willing to stay home to save lives, you may be right.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you have links to anyone actually saying this, or are you just making it up?
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Go to Ben Shapiro's facebook page, quite a few people there. Other right wing social media has varieties of "I'm a tough guy, so what if a few people die, losing my job is worse", or it is a complete hoax, or the democrats created the virus to defeat trump, or the democrats are exaggerating the hospital limits so that trump is not elected.

They have latched onto the "it's all about Trump" theme.
 
Scat said:
@JimLes @One Brow @Gameface You all need to read the entire article. It explains why engineers are better at predicting models than physicians. This person has helped create models in Liberia to quell ebola outbreaks. He did postdoctoral work at the the Center of Infectious Disease Modeling and Analysis at Yale University’s school of public health. He has quite a bit of experience in the field.


Sounds like is more than qualified to speak on the subject.
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I didn't respond to you on that. I tried to read the article but it wanted me to disable ad blocking or something so I navigated away.
 
silesian said:
You are assuming that our efforts to flatten the curve will be for naught. I hope you are wrong. But with all the a-holes who are saying "it is a hoax" and that are not willing to stay home to save lives, you may be right.
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That’s the thing. Between the half measures (I’d guess more of society is not quarantining than is) and resources which are quickly running out, the curve won’t flatten any time soon imo. If it did, it should in about 7-10 days but I don’t think it will.
 
We (the USA) just took over top spot for number of COVID-19 cases in the world. We're number #1!

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
 
Scat said:
You all need to read the entire article. It explains why engineers are better at predicting models than physicians. This person has helped create models in Liberia to quell ebola outbreaks. He did postdoctoral work at the the Center of Infectious Disease Modeling and Analysis at Yale University’s school of public health. He has quite a bit of experience in the field.
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Good for him. When we need a bridge built, we can call him. Right now, I'd rather listen to doctors.
 
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Scat said:
I have to assume you are being purposely obtuse.
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No, I'm just sufficiently worried about this pandemic that I'm not sure we ought to have an academic debate on who's better at pandemic modeling, engineers or medical professionals. I also believe that it's generally a good idea to listen to people in the field and not dilettantes, and especially not people who do "theoretical research." This is real life. We can't afford to see if only 13,000 people in Israel die, like this engineer is predicting. We don't have a vaccine for this virus, we don't know how contagious it is, we don't know what the actual mortality is, and we don't know if it will mutate. We do know that it didn't take long for most countries' health care systems to be overwhelmed.

But yeah, let's listen to this guy and abandon current measures to deal with this. Maybe he's right and everyone else is wrong.
 
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