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I've been debating an old friend of mine via facebook, terrible idea I know, after she posted "4 people from the vaccine trial developed Bell's Palsy after taking the vaccine. And the democratic governors want to make the vaccine mandatory. No thanks." To which I explained the normal rate for developing it is 15-30 cases per 100,000 so 4 out of 40,000 plus is actually below the normal rate.

Now she is a dental hygenist, married to a surgeon, who has 3 brothers and a father who are doctors and 1 other brother in law who is also a dr. The entire clan is posting conspiracy theories non stop. These are smart, kind, educated, people and they are still falling for the bull ****. It is depressing.
 
I've been debating an old friend of mine via facebook, terrible idea I know, after she posted "4 people from the vaccine trial developed Bell's Palsy after taking the vaccine. And the democratic governors want to make the vaccine mandatory. No thanks." To which I explained the normal rate for developing it is 15-30 cases per 100,000 so 4 out of 40,000 plus is actually below the normal rate.

Now she is a dental hygenist, married to a surgeon, who has 3 brothers and a father who are doctors and 1 other brother in law who is also a dr. The entire clan is posting conspiracy theories non stop. These are smart, kind, educated, people and they are still falling for the bull ****. It is depressing.
Posters here have a bizarrely high rate of running into anti-vaxxers. There cant be more than three four hundred of them and you find them all.

I don't get the oversized concern with a few moonbats. They make life interesting.
 
Posters here have a bizarrely high rate of running into anti-vaxxers. There cant be more than three four hundred of them and you find them all.

I don't get the oversized concern with a few moonbats. They make life interesting.
About 15-20% of the usa population refuses to take this vaccine no matter what. I would call those anti-vaxxers. This vaccine has at various times had upwards of more than 50% saying they would not take it. That number has improved but I would generally say roughly 1/2 the population has some level of distrust/suspicions of the vaccine mostly based on false information.
 
Posters here have a bizarrely high rate of running into anti-vaxxers. There cant be more than three four hundred of them and you find them all.

I feel sorry for the day your childish naivete turns into adult realizations. Among ogther things, check into the recent US history of measles outbreaks.

I don't get the oversized concern with a few moonbats. They make life interesting.
Sure, in the way a meteor impact makes life interesting. I can do without that excitement.
 
About 15-20% of the usa population refuses to take this vaccine no matter what. I would call those anti-vaxxers. This vaccine has at various times had upwards of more than 50% saying they would not take it. That number has improved but I would generally say roughly 1/2 the population has some level of distrust/suspicions of the vaccine mostly based on false information.
That's crazy. Most of them probably live in geographic pools. I bet most of them will get the vaccine after everyone else does and it's shown safe. Either that or theyll quickly achieve herd immunity the old fashioned way.
 
That's crazy. Most of them probably live in geographic pools. I bet most of them will get the vaccine after everyone else does and it's shown safe. Either that or theyll quickly achieve herd immunity the old fashioned way.
You must not talk to many people, hah. I guess we will see how many get it. I would guess that about 20-30% refuse. Most of those people are already convinced it isnt safe. Its sad because the vaccine isnt full proof. So you are still putting others at risk, but at least its greatly minimized. I am just hoping the vaccine gets things under control in the US so I can actually come back to visit my friends and family.
 
My Mom has it now. Its the 3rd person I know in my family to get it among many friends. I am much more concerned about her though. She has been pretty good about wearing mask and socially distancing. I have no idea how she got it but I would guess church since that is the only gathering they still do. She is 75 and has some health issues that will put her at high risk. So far no hospitalization, but she isnt doing well. Its going to be a hard choice for me if she gets hospitalized. I cant come back to China if I leave for the US. Latest news is student Visa's arent allowed back into China until September. My girlfriend is Chinese so she is banned from the US still, which is obviously pretty stupid that its the only country banned from the US due to the virus. Hopefully it doesnt get worse for my Mom. My other option is to get married to make it easier for us to travel together, not really the way I want to get married, but not a big deal. I could also quit my job here and take my PhD classes online for a semester but I wouldnt be stoked about that option. I know its a lot of similar hard choices for everyone during this time.
 
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