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I think he stinks relative to his mock positions. I personally think he’s barely a top 20 dude.

I can see that, I guess. I think he's going to measure out around 6'3" - 6'4." As much as people criticize Keyonte and GG for their eFG% this year, NSJ falls in that same range while having less of a physical profile. Then you've got a guy like Judah Mintz who might go late-1st/early 2nd who might be a pretty reasonable value-pick version.

NSJ was considered a high-level prospect coming into college, and I think that's helping him, obviously.
 
I can see that, I guess. I think he's going to measure out around 6'3" - 6'4." As much as people criticize Keyonte and GG for their eFG% this year, NSJ falls in that same range while having less of a physical profile. Then you've got a guy like Judah Mintz who might go late-1st/early 2nd who might be a pretty reasonable value-pick version.

NSJ was considered a high-level prospect coming into college, and I think that's helping him, obviously.
Completely agree on Judah.

I’m high on him but genuinely see him as NSJ lite without the hype and damn near the same game with Mintz honestly being a better distributor, imo.
 
Even Giddey normally plays off the ball when Shai is on the court, and Giddey is an elite passer.
Thats the point. He really cannot be put into any one category in a positive light for me. he is a mixed bag of skills offensively and nothing reliable enough to even suggest he is starter material as is, without a significant leap in p/r ball handling if he is going to be a point guard. And if not he needs a better jumper OR needs to be a Giddey type playmaker and he lacks both of those things as well.
I really don't get the love for him at all. I guess maybe the fact he is a solid rebounder and defender at 6'5 or whatever he is, should be enough to like him late teens early 20's. But going before that for me, is betting on him becoming something, he has shown little if any pro level upside of becoming- because the floor offensively is meh role player.
I bet he is something like Spencer Dinwiddie or worse Killian Hayes if he is a point guard. I give him a slim chance of becoming a Giddey type playmaking rotation guard at best.
 
Thats the point. He really cannot be put into any one category in a positive light for me. he is a mixed bag of skills offensively and nothing reliable enough to even suggest he is starter material as is without a significant leap in p/r ball handling if he is going to be a point guard, and if not he needs a better jumper OR needs to be a Giddey type playmaker and he lacks both of those things as well.
I really don't get the love for him at all. I guess maybe the fact he is a solid rebounder and defender at 6'5 or whatever he is, should be enough to like him late teens early 20's. But going before that for me, is betting on him becoming something, he has shown little if any pro level upside of becoming because the floot offensively is meh role player.
I bet he is something like Spencer Dinwiddie or worse Killian Hayes if he is a point guard. I give him a slim chance of becoming a Giddey type playmaking rotation guard at best.
What a trash post. He's Dinwiddie or Hayes? Are we talking Anthony Black? Have you seen any of these guys play?

Black is elite at getting to the FT line despite playing on a team with terrible spacing. He's a high level defender, and he's definitely taller than 6'5.
 
What a trash post. He's Dinwiddie or Hayes? Are we talking Anthony Black? Have you seen any of these guys play?

Black is elite at getting to the FT line despite playing on a team with terrible spacing. He's a high level defender, and he's definitely taller than 6'5.
I clearly have watched him be bad at basketball more than you claim to have watched him pretend to be a good player.
Trash posts are ones that come from know it all arm chair general managers like you sorry *** self, not from highly objective critics like me
 
I clearly have watched him be bad at basketball more than you claim to have watched him pretend to be a good player.
Trash posts are ones that come from know it all arm chair general managers like you sorry *** self, not from highly objective critics like me
Ok bud
 
Yeah but shooting.. we don’t need another Elfrid Payton, or cater Williams, or Wade Baldwin.. the list is as long as …….. well it’s long.
Would you have passed on Kawhi Leonard?

And how is Wade Baldwin being grouped in? He was a 40%+ shooter in college.
 
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