GoBolts
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I couldn't agree more...also, not allot of high quality free agents in the NBA want to live in Utah and/or play for Grandma Gail and Greggie.
Interesting trade idea from Locke
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I couldn't agree more...also, not allot of high quality free agents in the NBA want to live in Utah and/or play for Grandma Gail and Greggie.
could be true, but the real issue is that the Jazz aren't going to have any cap space to sign free agents any time soon anyway. The Deron, Memo, Millsap, and CJ contracts take care of that (plus any re-signings of: Matthews, Korver, AK, etc). so, complaining about KOC, Granmda Gail, Greggie, whoever... it is pointless.
NAOS
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Okay, I now understand your point about going over the cap. I still think it is very easy to take this rationale too far, and certainly taking on Brand is flirting with that line. The over-the-cap-and-fine-with-it mentality comes with consequences.
As for this quote above, the only contract I have complained about is Memo's. DWill, Millsap, and CJ are all earning their keep. Memo was a mistake of massive proportions.
Dude, you totally owned Sirimsmarterthanyou.
Not really, he had to go digging to find that definition. If you google it (since he didn't provide a source) the number one hit you get is ... jazzfanz.com.
Looking in more reasonable places you find the more common definitions relate to things like "pertaining to a margin" or "situated on the border or the edge."
For example https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marginal
It doesn't take a genius to read my original post and figure out I'm talking about, for example, the difference in quality between the second pick and the ninth pick or the difference in quality between AK and Elton Brand rather than saying there is very little difference in quality.
Damn, you're smart.
i assume the Jazz have some rough number where they want their salary spending to be, what they think they can afford. i guess we'll find out more about that this summer. if it so happens that the number is right at the luxury tax line, then i think Brand is in play (if it is really true he is available).
Brand is definitely a risk, and "flirting with that line" as you say. on the other hand, his supposed skills seem to be a sort-of replacement for what Boozer did for the Jazz. who else could be that player? other players with a few years on their deals and available might be:
Iguodala
Villanueva
Hamilton
Maggette
Ellis
Turkoglu
Barbosa
Okafor
Arenas
Jamison
Diaw
Chandler
meh.
maybe Biedrins is available? i'd certainly take him before Brand. his contract isn't too bad ($9million per, for a bunch more years)
maybe Memo's deal was a mistake. on the other hand, he's a big guy, a pretty good player, and would agree to sign with the Jazz for just 2 years. at the same time he re-signed, Boozer was off touring the NBA campaigning to get out of here.
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Darkwing Duck
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Ah, but as I mentioned, the link you provided stated "marginal" as a quantitative measure and not a qualitative measure, the example given being the final unit of a group of units that performed the same action. There was nothing about the difference in quality. That said, I'm more open to the trade than you are, but I doubt Philly thinks it's a good trade so they decline anyway.
GoBolts
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I agree with your point of complaining about the org. being pointless, but not for the financial reasons you point out (although true), it is pointless to complain because the sad fact is that the team IS in Utah and the owners ARE who they are... don't mistake thinking that the complaining has just begun this summer, I and many other sad and frustrated Jazz fans have been complaining about the team's inability to sign quality FA's for many many MANY years now... but alas, it is who we are and what we do. I accept my fate. I wear it as a badge of honor. I will never sell out. It is those who have jumped off the cliff and bought Lakers jerseys (I'm sure most own old Bulls jerseys too), and now I that I think about it, I'm willing to bet they are Yankees fans, who can be called the sell-outs. I am a real fan. I will support my teams forever. I cheer for the Padres, always have. I cheer for the Chargers, always have. I cheer for the Jazz, always have. I've been a season ticket holder since the franchise came to this state. So any of you that don't like my complaining about my team can relax...I've earned the right.
the Jazz have had money under the salary cap ONCE in recent memory: the summer of 2004. they promptly blew it all on two players: Boozer and Okur. thus, i don't understand your complaint. but, like you said, you've "earned the right" to keep complaining. so, hopefully that is fulfilling or whatever for you.