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Gameface said:
Well I won't be voting for a Democrat then.
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It's not happening, I don't know why he's so fixated on some latecomer entering the race. Michelle is on the record multiple times talking about how much she hated being in the whitehouse, and the idea that Bloomberg would get any kind of support from democrats is laughable.

Oprah has name recognition, sure, but who among the current candidates would she pilfer supporters from? Maybe as a populist candidate she could garner some support, but she would have had to declare months ago to build a coalition capable of winning the nomination. And in any case I don't get the impression the democrats would be terribly interested in supporting a TV personality with no record of public service, considering who she'd be running against.

It's pure fantasy.
 
I think Harris has a legit shot.


But if I were betting I’d put money on a Biden Harris ticket.
 
Additional candidates like Oprah would have to already have serious ground games going on in states like Iowa and California as the primary election in those states will be away in just a few months.

Does anyone have any evidence that Oprah has a functioning campaign in Iowa or California?
 
Zombie said:
It's not happening, I don't know why he's so fixated on some latecomer entering the race. Michelle is on the record multiple times talking about how much she hated being in the whitehouse, and the idea that Bloomberg would get any kind of support from democrats is laughable.

Oprah has name recognition, sure, but who among the current candidates would she pilfer supporters from? Maybe as a populist candidate she could garner some support, but she would have had to declare months ago to build a coalition capable of winning the nomination. And in any case I don't get the impression the democrats would be terribly interested in supporting a TV personality with no record of public service, considering who she'd be running against.

It's pure fantasy.
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Just to reemphasize something you already said, in order for Oprah to run as a Democrat, she has to win the party’s nomination. But in order to win the party’s nomination she has to win the most votes, not from the general public, BUT FROM DEMOCRATS.

I don’t think posters proclaiming her success are fully understanding this. She’s not running for general election. Before she can even do that She needs to run for the party’s nomination.

So as you said, which candidates’ supporters is she going to pilfer from? Certainly not enough from anyone in the top 4. Especially if she doesn’t even have a functioning campaign in the states with early primary voting. Even if she somehow managed to gain support, votes will have already been cast.

Oprah doesn’t have a prayer cuz math and time matter. Oh, and because she hasn’t even declared.

It’s difficult to win if you never even declare to run

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Heathme said:
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Setting aside the problem that running for nationwide office under our system requires a measure of wealth-

Among candidates with material support and an actual shot of getting the nomination.

Warren: $12 million
Biden: $9 million
Harris: $6 million
O’Rourke: $4 million
Sanders: $2.5 million
Booker: $1.5 million

These figures are laughable when you consider who they'd be running against.
 
Heathme said:
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Why do Trumpers hate success? Did someone else “build it?” That’s offensive. Wasn’t it Ben Shapiro who recently said “if you can’t make a living off one job stop blaming your boss and blame yourself?”

Do Trumpers want everyone to live in Appalachian trailer parks, off Medicaid, addicted to teevee and opioids, and blaming brown people and the environmentalists for taking der jobs? Sad

Maybe we should celebrate success. Warren and co made a lot of money by working hard, not inheriting daddy’s wealth.
 
str8line said:
He's not going to be going against Biden. And probably not Warren. He's going to be going against Oprah or Bloomberg or Michelle Obama.
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The one who won the nomination won’t drop out. If this happens it strengthens Trumps chances because it’ll split the vote. That would be a disaster. So it won’t be as an independent either. They don’t want to be the one that let trump win.
 
Zombie said:
Setting aside the problem that running for nationwide office under our system requires a measure of wealth-

Among candidates with material support and an actual shot of getting the nomination.

Warren: $12 million
Biden: $9 million
Harris: $6 million
O’Rourke: $4 million
Sanders: $2.5 million
Booker: $1.5 million

These figures are laughable when you consider who they'd be running against.
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Ya that's one of the stupidest things heathme has ever posted.
Which is saying something.

Those candidates aren't very rich. I'm pretty sure there are jazzfanzers with net worths as much as some of those candidates.
Jeff green I'm sure has a much larger net worth than all of them despite being much younger.

I work with a guy who has a couple million in his 401k and he has never made 6 figures in a single year in his life.

Then you have Trump lol.

Heathme can be quite a dumbass

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According to Lindsey Graham some truth bombs are going to be dropped about the whole Russia collusion thing. Not a fan of Grahams goofy smug *** and I wont believe anything until i see it but I am a firm believer that this entire Russia thing runs insanely deep.
 
Stoked said:
The one who won the nomination won’t drop out. If this happens it strengthens Trumps chances because it’ll split the vote. That would be a disaster. So it won’t be as an independent either. They don’t want to be the one that let trump win.
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There is a lot of time. Remember when Herman Cain lead the polls?
 
str8line said:
There is a lot of time. Remember when Herman Cain lead the polls?
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Oh yeah. Who doesn’t remember the pizza guy? 9-9-9 tax rates baby! Oh and this was golden:



The above video clip shows exactly why I mean the GOP’s nativism and anti-intellectualism has been a long time coming. It didn’t begin with trump nor will it end with him. The party of stupid needs to be reformed.
 
JazzyFresh said:
According to Lindsey Graham some truth bombs are going to be dropped about the whole Russia collusion thing. Not a fan of Grahams goofy smug *** and I wont believe anything until i see it but I am a firm believer that this entire Russia thing runs insanely deep.
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There is evidence that the whole Russia investigation was originally made up by the Dems and then taken over by a faction of the intelligence community as a contingency plan when Trump got elected. In other words, it was a strategy to discredit Trump's election and create grounds for impeachment. If it gets fully exposed, it will bring to light corruption within the FBI and the Justice Dept. and it might expose some CIA assets along the way. So the Justice Department has to figure out how to handle it and try to come out of this with some of its credibility in tact.

The other thing it could expose, potentially, is complicity on the part of corporate media that ran full speed with the Russia narrative. CNN, MSNBC and Washington Post under Bezos all have links to the CIA. But I think a lot of people can sense that already.

This was last week -- https://m.thebl.com/politics/politi...y-link-between-fusion-gps-and-obamas-fbi.html

The missing piece right now is the role of Joseph Misfud and who he worked for.
 
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Catchall said:
There is evidence that the whole Russia investigation was originally made up by the Dems and then taken over by a faction of the intelligence community as a contingency plan when Trump got elected. In other words, it was a strategy to discredit Trump's election and create grounds for impeachment. If it gets fully exposed, it will bring to light corruption within the FBI and the Justice Dept. and it might expose some CIA assets along the way. So the Justice Department has to figure out how to handle it and try to come out of this with some of its credibility in tact.

The other thing it could expose, potentially, is complicity on the part of corporate media that ran full speed with the Russia narrative. CNN, MSNBC and Washington Post under Bezos all have links to the CIA. But I think a lot of people can sense that already.
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I don't know how many times it needs to be pointed out that the "Russia investigation" predates the Steele Dossier and began with Papadopolous running his mouth about Russians having dirt on Hillary Clinton in April of 2016. This had nothing to do with "Dems."
 
Zombie said:
I don't know how many times it needs to be pointed out that the "Russia investigation" predates the Steele Dossier and began with Papadopolous running his mouth about Russians having dirt on Hillary Clinton in April of 2016. This had nothing to do with "Dems."
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Nellie Ohr was hired by political consulting firm Fusion GPS in 2015 to do opposition research for the Clinton campaign, focusing on Trump's potential Russia connections. Christopher Steele was a trusted intelligence analyst who was brought in during the summer of 2016. He became the face of the dossier and the informant the FBI used to obtain FISA warrants, but the Russia narrative was hatched by Bruce Ohr's wife for Fusion GPS before Steele got involved. The Russia narrative was developed by Fusion GPS for the Dems, then was taken over by the FBI after Trump won the Republican nomination.

That's the piece that came out last week from the unsealed FBI reports.
 
Catchall said:
Nellie Ohr was hired by political consulting firm Fusion GPS in 2015 to do opposition research for the Clinton campaign, focusing on Trump's potential Russia connections. Christopher Steele was a trusted intelligence analyst who was brought in by the FBI during the summer of 2016. He became the face of the dossier and the informant the FBI used to obtain FISA warrants, but the Russia narrative was hatched by Bruce Ohr's wife for Fusion GPS before Steele got involved. The Russia narrative was developed by Fusion GPS for the Dems, then was taken over by the FBI after Trump won the Republican nomination.

That's the piece that came out last week from the unsealed FBI reports.
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All of this ignores that the FBI was looking into the Trump campaign well before they had the Dossier completely independently of FusionGPS. And you are incorrect that they were hired by Clinton in 2015, in fact they were hired by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative organization which was doing oppo research into all the Republican candidates. The DNC and Hillary brought them on in 2016 to continue the work they had already been doing.
 
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