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2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

infection said:
I still hold some of this belief that he’s the same. He’s played only 21 games for us — less than Conley — and averaged 11 mpg in those games. 13 of them were after his injury. He played with a garbage offense on the bench so a magnifying glass was held to his weaknesses.
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IDK what he looked like last year but even when he could get an offensive board the shot he’d put up wasn’t close... the hands and the pick and roll has always been an issue I believe.

He was just not nearly as good on either side of the ball as I thought he would be. Imagine if we had picked Holmes instead of Ed... damn.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
IDK what he looked like last year but even when he could get an offensive board the shot he’d put up wasn’t close... the hands and the pick and roll has always been an issue I believe.

He was just not nearly as good on either side of the ball as I thought he would be. Imagine if we had picked Holmes instead of Ed... damn.
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From what I've seen this year he might be the most uncoordinated player in the entire NBA.
 
I don't know. Kind of the same thing with Conley. He's a career 56.7% FG. Lowest of his career was 51.3%. He's 36.7%. Yes, eye test is he's looked bad. But he's only 30. He played with a completely anemic bench, he's had very limited minutes, and coming back from injury. I'm not saying he's some goliath, but I believe the Ed we've seen is an outlier, and I think for the sake of the playoffs it's worth having him re-discover himself if we aren't making other moves.
 
infection said:
I don't know. Kind of the same thing with Conley. He's a career 56.7% FG. Lowest of his career was 51.3%. He's 36.7%. Yes, eye test is he's looked bad. But he's only 30. He played with a completely anemic bench, he's had very limited minutes, and coming back from injury. I'm not saying he's some goliath, but I believe the Ed we've seen is an outlier, and I think for the sake of the playoffs it's worth having him re-discover himself if we aren't making other moves.
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infection said:
I don't know. Kind of the same thing with Conley. He's a career 56.7% FG. Lowest of his career was 51.3%. He's 36.7%. Yes, eye test is he's looked bad. But he's only 30. He played with a completely anemic bench, he's had very limited minutes, and coming back from injury. I'm not saying he's some goliath, but I believe the Ed we've seen is an outlier, and I think for the sake of the playoffs it's worth having him re-discover himself if we aren't making other moves.
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If we aren’t making any other moves, then of course he has the entire coaching staff at his disposal. I’m sure they’d hire a soul-finder for Ed if he needed one.

bottom line is that this position is clearly the weakest link. It’s significantly lowering our ceiling. DL and Zanik aren’t doing their jobs if they aren’t trying to upgrade it.
 
infection said:
I don't know. Kind of the same thing with Conley. He's a career 56.7% FG. Lowest of his career was 51.3%. He's 36.7%. Yes, eye test is he's looked bad. But he's only 30. He played with a completely anemic bench, he's had very limited minutes, and coming back from injury. I'm not saying he's some goliath, but I believe the Ed we've seen is an outlier, and I think for the sake of the playoffs it's worth having him re-discover himself if we aren't making other moves.
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If it was just FG% then I'd say sure... but its TOV% (27.2%), fouls per 36 (7.6... more than TB), and his rebounding is down. He shoots 4.7 shots per 36... It is too deadly of a combo to work through... low volume, high turnover, low percentage... He is butt naked last in RPM for centers by a wide margin. He is 5th worst in the whole league (459 players). Even when we'd luck out and he'd get fouled he was only 45% from the free throw line. Tony has helped just by being his "meh" self.

We didn't do him a ton of favors with the unit he was out there with, but he was reason #1 that unit sucked... at worst he was #1b with Jeff being 1a. He's literally been like close to the worst player in the nba type ****... we aren't good enough to overcome how bad he was.
 
Honestly I'm looking at the realistic possibilities at 5 and I'm not sold that any of them are a distinct upgrade over TB who has shown promise and Ed if there was any way we could drag last seasons version out of him.

Biyombo would be a liability in playoff basketball. Hernangomez and Len have defensive question marks just like TB. Gibson's defense has fallen off hard the last few seasons and I'm not sold on the fit. Kyle O'Quinn? Meh.

Can I give Ed a hug or something? Would that fix it?
 
On the Dunc'd On podcast, they said they would sign Marquese Chriss if they were the Jazz. Then they kinda backpedaled a bit and said maybe not Chriss specifically, but someone who can really jump and get on top of the rim on the second unit. He was playing better near the end of his stint with the Warriors. I think the Warriors were pretty confident that he'd clear waivers and that they could just sign him to a series of 10 day contracts or whatever.
 
zyzz said:
On the Dunc'd On podcast, they said they would sign Marquese Chriss if they were the Jazz. Then they kinda backpedaled a bit and said maybe not Chriss specifically, but someone who can really jump and get on top of the rim on the second unit. He was playing better near the end of his stint with the Warriors. I think the Warriors were pretty confident that he'd clear waivers and that they could just sign him to a series of 10 day contracts or whatever.
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chriss is straight up ****.

**** NO
 
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