Clippers offering Bledsoe, Butler to Celtics for Garnett

[bluenote]

We could get Bledsoe and pick a pg in the draft.

Let the Burke/ Bledsoe era begin.

This!...........This!!!!

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm comparing the fact people find this team "boring" regardless of weather we're blowing a team out, or winning in overtime, to the fact that this generation of fans finds anything that isn't super athletic, young guys flying, boring.

no it is boring cus the team leader and captain does not btoher playing defense
does not bother hustling
did you ever see al dive for a looseball.
outhustle other big men for rebounds?(atleast boozer did that)
did yuou see the captain leader ever ever back up his teammates(like kanter and favors do)
have you ever seen big al give a flagrant foul after the 10the uncontested layup
have you ever seen al show like he gives a **** oncourt.


thats why this alfense "jazz" orientated basketball is BORING

 

[DutchJazzer]

That doesn't adress the point I made at all. You were talking about the offense being ineffective, so I showed you two categories that shows we're in the top end of the leauge in terms of offensive efficency.

And fyi Al's taking the least shots this season, as any season since he joined the Jazz. His current number of fga per game is around that 15 number that Millsap had last year.

millsap kanter favors are far more effeicent
yet al takes the most shots.
the most minutes.

don't try to shine **** and call it gold.

al is a nice guy OFF the court.
but he is the opposite of JAZZ BASKETBALL, and that type of basketball is BORING

 

[DutchJazzer]

I think it's extremely true. I've heard enough people litteraly say they stopped watching a game we were winning, where Al was playing an extremly efficent game, simply because they don't like how boring his game is.

getitng 15+ shots garanteeed will lead to a statistical anomly when al is on fire and cant miss.
but the problem still exist he aint giving a ****, he aint playing defense.
he is soft and needs to go

 

[DutchJazzer]

getitng 15+ shots garanteeed will lead to a statistical anomly when al is on fire and cant miss.
but the problem still exist he aint giving a ****, he aint playing defense.
he is soft and needs to go

and ooh yeah worst of al he steals minutes form better players(kanter favors)

 

[Purch]

By the way the Jazz are also 9th in the leauge in assist, and number 14 in fg%percent.

So to review the Jazz are

11th in offensive rating
11th in ppg
9th in the leauge in assist
and 14th in the leauge in fg%

 

[vslice02]

We're 11th in the leauge in points per game, and we're 11th in the leauge in offensive rating.
So either 1, you're over exaggerating. Or the leauge as a whole has gotten terrible on offense.
By comparision the last D-Will Boozer year we were 12th in the leauge in scoring and 8th in offensive rating.

The bolded part is alot closer to the truth. Forget rankings for a moment
2009-10:
PPG: 104.2
Pts/100possessions: 110.7

2012-13:
PPG: 98.0
Pts/100possessions: 106.5

Bottom line: The Jazz are a less efficient offensive team than they were from 2006-10 and they are also now a significantly worse defensive team as well (2009-10: 105 pts/100possessions vs. 2012-13: 107.5 pts/100possessions)


More minutes for Favors and Kanter and fewer for Jefferson won't make Utah a better offensive team but their effort, ability and mobility on the defensive end will improve Utah's team-defense which is what Utah should be concentrating on. With Jefferson as a focal point Utah is merely average offensively and sub-par defensively. The Jazz need to build longterm around players who possess the ability to make them very good at atleast 1-end of the court.

What I like most about Bledsoe (besides his athleticism) is his ability to get up and defend. He can really get up and pressure the ball which would complement the defensive ability of Favors as well.

 

[Purch]

millsap kanter favors are far more effeicent
yet al takes the most shots.
the most minutes.

don't try to shine **** and call it gold.

al is a nice guy OFF the court.
but he is the opposite of JAZZ BASKETBALL, and that type of basketball is BORING

Obviously he gets the most shots, because when the defense collapses he's the only one we depend on. And clearly they're more efficent because there's not a help defender ready to help on them whenever they catch the ball.

 

[GVC]

I think it's extremely true. I've heard enough people litteraly say they stopped watching a game we were winning, where Al was playing an extremly efficent game, simply because they don't like how boring his game is.

It's not about young guys flying around though, it's about well executed 5-man team basketball. The Deron-Boozer and Stockton-Malone teams weren't all about flying around, they were about 5 guys executing. Al is boring not only because he's slow, but because he doesn't seem to grasp team basketball concepts. Watch him run the floor, set screens, hold the ball, etc.

I can appreciate that other people enjoy watching Al operate. I don't though, and it's not because he's not throwing down hammer dunks in transition.

 

[PrinceJL]

The Jazz need to get in on this and offer Millsap to the Clippers for Bledsoe and Butler straight up.

For that team, Garnett >>> Millsap
They plan on pairing Garnett w/ Griffin, Millsap & Griffin is not a lineup to close games out with.

 

[GVC]

What I like most about Bledsoe (besides his athleticism) is his ability to get up and defend. He can really get up and pressure the ball which would complement the defensive ability of Favors as well.

How much fun would a Favors-Millsap-Carroll-Hayward-Bledsoe lineup be?

 

[mellow]

I don't think this is true of Jazz fans in general. I think it's even less true of those who are tired of Al. We want to see 5-man team basketball. The Al-era Jazz are a lot less team oriented than previous Jazz teams.

I don't often watch other NBA teams play, but the other night I caught a few minutes of the GS game. I'm pretty sure that I watched opened jawed. Watching Bogut and Lee pass and the way the Warrior bigs cut, screen and pass made me smile. I had forgotten how enjoyable basketball can be to watch.

When I watched the next Jazz game it was awful. Sometimes it is better to forget.