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And here we see some very good people, just a little angry, posing in front of the governor's office. Yes, lets make a deal...

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Bunch of ****ing idiots

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The thing that baffles me, saddens me, and yes, angers me, is that, at least as far as coronavirus is concerned, we now no longer seem to be the UNITED States. What happened to our system of federalism? To the federal government's role in federalism? Still another casualty of the Trump era?

We seem to now be more like 50 independent nations, than one nation.

I’m at least very grateful that my own governor has seen to it that Rhode Island leads all states in both testing and tracing. This was greatly helped by CVS setting up a multi-lane drive through testing location in our state, itself able to test 2,000 per day at present.

I believe Trump does not want expanded testing, the 2-3 million a day needed, so the pandemic will not appear as widespread as it actually is. I guess it’s in his political interest to not help expand testing and tracing in the United States. And make us less united, and more akin to 50 independent polities.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...perate-attempts-to-reopen-america/ar-BB13wlAp

So determined was Trump to extinguish the deadly virus that he repeatedly embraced fantasy cure-alls and tuned out both the reality that the first wave has yet to significantly recede and the possibility of a potentially worse second wave in the fall.

The president sought to obscure major problems by trying to recast them as triumphs. He repeatedly boasted, for instance, that the United States has conducted more tests than any other country, even though the total of 6.75 million is a fraction of the 2 million to 3 million tests per day that many experts say is needed to safely reopen.

And though Trump was fixated on reopening the economy, he and his administration fell far short of making that a reality. The factors that health and business leaders say are critical to a speedy and effective reopening - widespread testing, contact tracing and coordinated efforts between Washington and the states - remain lacking.

"We wasted two months denying it. We're now wasting another two months by just dithering around," said Kathleen Sebelius, a former Kansas governor and health secretary in the Obama administration. "The administration seems to have washed their hands of it and said [to governors], we're out of it. You're on your own. Figure it out."

"That's really the story of all this," agreed one outside adviser to the Trump administration. "The states are just doing everything on their own."
 
We’re just not a serious country anymore





these are ridiculous. How is mandating masks over the line? We are in a pandemic! Why cave to a bunch of terrorists in Oklahoma?



The danger of covid hasn’t passed. It appears that we’re just bored with restrictions and are now going to plow through ahead, regardless of the economic or human costs. We are losing 2,000-2,500 people per day and it appears like we just don’t care anymore. We aren’t even trying to lower those numbers anymore.
 
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The Thriller said:
We’re just not a serious country anymore





these are ridiculous. How is mandating masks over the line? We are in a pandemic! Why cave to a bunch of terrorists in Oklahoma?



The danger of covid hasn’t passed. It appears that we’re just bored with restrictions and are now going to plow through ahead, regardless of the economic or human costs. We are losing 2,000-2,500 people per day and it appears like we just don’t care anymore. We aren’t even trying to lower those numbers anymore.
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Big thing is borders will be closed to the US for an awful long time too. Gonna hurt trade massively. But you know T.Rump has the best of everything...
 
Douchebag K said:
apart from the fact she’s condemned their tourism industry until a vaccine comes around and smashed more of their economy for the same result that Australia has with a more measured staged approach.
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I think in a couple of weeks travel will resume more or less as normal between here and NZ.

Douchebag K said:
no mate. Just over the nauseating Jacinda worship. She’s nowhere near as well regarded in NZ as abroad
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Like you wouldnt slip old horse face a sugar cube and carrot?

I released my first covid victim to the coroner today. Im expecting a spike when restrictions are lifted, that said we're better prepared. Im pretty isolated, only person i have contact with outside of work is my bird and she's fit as a fiddle.

Realistically this hasnt been such a bad thing, no longer feel guilty about skipping the gym and im saving about 400 bucks a week by not going to the pub. Work is generally quieter outside of the covid ****. 6 more months of this and i'll have a decent house deposit saved. Sure both my businesses are closed and 15 of my workers are out of work but i seem to have no end of **** to do.
 
Avery said:
Honestly, that's a pretty laughable defense. Case in point - run this graphic on who hasn't killed by terrorists so we can understand if we should care about terrorism or not.
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Good retort

I mean why not legalize murder? There are so many people who aren't murdered. So it's really nothing to worry about
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Most of the population didn’t die of Black Death or the 1918 flu. Most people didn’t die from the world wars. But we all know most people will die if they’re forced to wear a mask to go shopping. Let’s keep things in perspective.
 
It’s really astounding how dumb ppl are. On the radio today, I heard some guy say all-in-all, this hasn’t been nearly as bad the 2 million fatality projections Fauci had said were possible.

1) Yes, that was without taking precautionary measures like masks and socially distancing.
2) Is this over? We’re still cruising along at over 2,000 deaths and about half of the country has resumed life, more or less. Do people think it won’t get worse in the coming weeks as a result? I can’t imagine we won’t see 3,000+ deaths daily starting in the next 2-3 weeks. And 3,000 is a very mild projection. Gun to my head, we hit 4,000 deaths a day by May 20th-25th.
 
Deaths will be over 100k, not 2M as we actually took preventative measures. Nothing to spike a football over.
 
I went back to the beginning of this thread as we were trying to decide when this was first being talked about here in the US. Read the first few hundred posts. We were so blissfully innocent then and unaware of how much life would change.

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The states that opened early are going to prove the liberal ****s wrong, again. They were already proved wrong when thousands upon thousands of people had Spring break on Miami beaches and did not cause a spike in deaths. They were proved wrong they predicted that we would have 200k deaths in two weeks but here were are 2 MONTHS later with only 60k deaths.

This whole thing has just become a political stance now. Because Trump wants to reopen the economy, the liberal sheep want to do whatever the exact opposite of what Trump wants to do. If Trump's position was to keep the economy closed for as long as possible, the liberal sheep would be calling for everything to open up immediately.
 
magic said:
The states that opened early are going to prove the liberal ****s wrong, again. They were already proved wrong when thousands upon thousands of people had Spring break on Miami beaches and did not cause a spike in deaths. They were proved wrong they predicted that we would have 200k deaths in two weeks but here were are 2 MONTHS later with only 60k deaths.

This whole thing has just become a political stance now. Because Trump wants to reopen the economy, the liberal sheep want to do whatever the exact opposite of what Trump wants to do. If Trump's position was to keep the economy closed for as long as possible, the liberal sheep would be calling for everything to open up immediately.
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You may be blinded enough to think if a Democrat were in charge, the Democrats would support opening the economy. If so, sucks to be you.
 
One Brow said:
You may be blinded enough to think if a Democrat were in charge, the Democrats would support opening the economy. If so, sucks to be you.
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You're right, Democrat's would prefer to have a socialist society. So if Trump/Republican party wanted to not reopen for a say a year, the Dems way of doing the "opposite" would be to propose delaying the reopening of the economy for an even longer, unreasonable amount of time.
 
magic said:
You're right, Democrat's would prefer to have a socialist society. So if Trump/Republican party wanted to not reopen for a say a year, the Dems way of doing the "opposite" would be to propose delaying the reopening of the economy for an even longer, unreasonable amount of time.
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What are you basing your assertion that Democrats want a socialist society on?

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