Coronavirus

[FalseFlagg K]

FDA approves Pfizer for use in 5-11 year olds. FDA member who voted yes says “we don’t know how safe this is til we start giving it out, it’s just the way it is”

ya follow da science lol

 

[Ron Mexico]

I travelled back from the USA to China the last few days. It was a very interesting experience. I first went to Utah where almost no one was wearing masks except for a few people in SLC. I was mostly surprised to see the pharmacy where I got my USA vaccine from had no one wearing masks, even while giving people vaccines. Personally I am not really worried about catching it except for the fact it would delay getting back to China for a long time, which would be bad for work and other things. I got scowls in Utah a few times while wearing masks indoor, especially outside SLC. In SLC some people wore their masks everywhere, I watched multiple people put their masks on in-between every bite, which made me laugh. I then went to LA and it was a **** show as usual. The rules are super strict there I heard employees and other customers lose their **** and yell at customers walking into bars/restaurants without a mask. They made them leave, put on a mask, walk back in, then get to their seat and take their mask off. Mostly it was very quiet at the bars/restaurants and they closed early. Then catching up with a few friends in the area and them telling me about huge music festivals they went to and are going to later next week. California makes no sense, but again kind of on par with that place.

Then traveling back to China was extremely crazy. First the China Air requires its employees to wear basically full hazmat type suits which makes it seem very scary. Also really enjoyed a random dude at the airport asking to take a picture of the employee and then telling him to stop being scared of the virus and believe in Jesus. He kept telling him over and over read the bible dude it will like totally save you dude, you wont even need anything else. The flight to China was terrible. They served one tiny box of food and 3 waters at the start of the flight and that was it for a 15 hour flight. Then took temps every few hours and made you use hand sanitizer a few times. They wouldnt hand out pillows, blankets, or head phones for the screens. Arriving in China was surreal of being put on buses separated out and put through 3-5 hours of paperwork, testing, and waiting in lines before being cleared to go to quarantine. We were then taken to a random hotel and they scanned bags to get rid of any sharp objects or booze. We filled out more paperwork and then taken to a room where we are sealed in for 3 weeks now. Luckily I played dumb with their scanner machines and then switched bags with my wife last second when they searched for booze so I have that at least. They dont allow deliveries of any kind and they serve 3 meals a day. You have to pay for the hotel at whatever random rate the hotel you are assigned to is and for the food. The rooms are all have makeshift security bars installed. They are over the top secure with the borders right now. But once you are back in basically everything is normal. The only restriction is wearing a mask in public transportation and requiring you to sign in or use an app to sign in at businesses you go to.

I wasnt careful that much in USA I hadnt seen family and friends in 3 years so I met up with tons of people. I also went out to some bars and went out to eat most meals. I tested negative the whole time. I have the Chinese vaccine that seems to be decent. Its been 6 months so I decided I should get a booster in the USA. I could only get the J&J because China requires you to finish all the vaccine before returning to China, including the 2 weeks after your last dose so I didnt have time for another.

China is saying it will open its borders early 2022 when the country is at 80% or more vaccination rate. I have a hard time believing they will. They will have to deal with the virus sweeping across the country pretty bad as well as various lockdowns to slow it down. The people of the country will be pretty upset. The vast majority of Chinese dont care about leaving the country or people coming in. They do care about being safe and enjoy being one of the safest countries right now. I cant imagine them doing that. On the flip side it seems like eventually you have to open the borders, but also its China, so who knows.

 

[Gameface]

I travelled back from the USA to China the last few days. It was a very interesting experience. I first went to Utah where almost no one was wearing masks except for a few people in SLC. I was mostly surprised to see the pharmacy where I got my USA vaccine from had no one wearing masks, even while giving people vaccines. Personally I am not really worried about catching it except for the fact it would delay getting back to China for a long time, which would be bad for work and other things. I got scowls in Utah a few times while wearing masks indoor, especially outside SLC. In SLC some people wore their masks everywhere, I watched multiple people put their masks on in-between every bite, which made me laugh. I then went to LA and it was a **** show as usual. The rules are super strict there I heard employees and other customers lose their **** and yell at customers walking into bars/restaurants without a mask. They made them leave, put on a mask, walk back in, then get to their seat and take their mask off. Mostly it was very quiet at the bars/restaurants and they closed early. Then catching up with a few friends in the area and them telling me about huge music festivals they went to and are going to later next week. California makes no sense, but again kind of on par with that place.

Then traveling back to China was extremely crazy. First the China Air requires its employees to wear basically full hazmat type suits which makes it seem very scary. Also really enjoyed a random dude at the airport asking to take a picture of the employee and then telling him to stop being scared of the virus and believe in Jesus. He kept telling him over and over read the bible dude it will like totally save you dude, you wont even need anything else. The flight to China was terrible. They served one tiny box of food and 3 waters at the start of the flight and that was it for a 15 hour flight. Then took temps every few hours and made you use hand sanitizer a few times. They wouldnt hand out pillows, blankets, or head phones for the screens. Arriving in China was surreal of being put on buses separated out and put through 3-5 hours of paperwork, testing, and waiting in lines before being cleared to go to quarantine. We were then taken to a random hotel and they scanned bags to get rid of any sharp objects or booze. We filled out more paperwork and then taken to a room where we are sealed in for 3 weeks now. Luckily I played dumb with their scanner machines and then switched bags with my wife last second when they searched for booze so I have that at least. They dont allow deliveries of any kind and they serve 3 meals a day. You have to pay for the hotel at whatever random rate the hotel you are assigned to is and for the food. The rooms are all have makeshift security bars installed. They are over the top secure with the borders right now. But once you are back in basically everything is normal. The only restriction is wearing a mask in public transportation and requiring you to sign in or use an app to sign in at businesses you go to.

I wasnt careful that much in USA I hadnt seen family and friends in 3 years so I met up with tons of people. I also went out to some bars and went out to eat most meals. I tested negative the whole time. I have the Chinese vaccine that seems to be decent. Its been 6 months so I decided I should get a booster in the USA. I could only get the J&J because China requires you to finish all the vaccine before returning to China, including the 2 weeks after your last dose so I didnt have time for another.

China is saying it will open its borders early 2022 when the country is at 80% or more vaccination rate. I have a hard time believing they will. They will have to deal with the virus sweeping across the country pretty bad as well as various lockdowns to slow it down. The people of the country will be pretty upset. The vast majority of Chinese dont care about leaving the country or people coming in. They do care about being safe and enjoy being one of the safest countries right now. I cant imagine them doing that. On the flip side it seems like eventually you have to open the borders, but also its China, so who knows.

Wife?

 

[Ron Mexico]

Wife?

Haha, good pickup. Yeah, I got married last month. I swore off marriage but then blah blah blah, shes really cool and perfect for me.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Haha, good pickup. Yeah, I got married last month. I swore off marriage but then blah blah blah, shes really cool and perfect for me.

Her favorite place in SLC was Bayou, which locks their doors and makes you show them your vaccination before coming in. The owner was running the door when we went in.

 

[Gameface]

Her favorite place in SLC was Bayou, which locks their doors and makes you show them your vaccination before coming in. The owner was running the door when we went in.

Congrats man!

Yeah, I saw that they had a strict policy in a KSL article and the comments were hilarious. "Well I know where I'm NOT going to go for dinner!" and the like, all from people who were never going to eat there anyway. I meant to go there a few times to show them my support but I haven't been there since they announced that, yet.

Sounds like you're doing well. Makes me happy.

 

[One Brow]

FDA approves Pfizer for use in 5-11 year olds. FDA member who voted yes says “we don’t know how safe this is til we start giving it out, it’s just the way it is”

ya follow da science lol

That's true of pretty much any medical procedure. No matter how many trials you do, you can't know all the effects until it starts being performed more broadly.

Feel free to talk stupid lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That's true of pretty much any medical procedure. No matter how many trials you do, you can't know all the effects until it starts being performed more broadly.

Feel free to talk stupid lol.

That is tough though when kids don't really die from Covid and some places are making it mandatory. I would not be putting my kids at the front of the line with this type of logic. California is going to make me choose now between homeschool which will stunt my kids social and educational growth and giving my kids a shot that "we don't know all the effects of". We vaccinate our kids for other stuff obvi but this one is new and less proven. My whole family got Covid a year ago... none of the kids had symptoms much more severe than a light cold and a headache.

I'm cool doing it in a year or so... but giving this the thumbs up with amazing votes of confidence listed above doesn't get me excited to have my kids be the guinea pigs.

 

[One Brow]

That is tough though when kids don't really die from Covid and some places are making it mandatory. I would not be putting my kids at the front of the line with this type of logic. California is going to make me choose now between homeschool which will stunt my kids social and educational growth and giving my kids a shot that "we don't know all the effects of". We vaccinate our kids for other stuff obvi but this one is new and less proven. My whole family got Covid a year ago... none of the kids had symptoms much more severe than a light cold and a headache.

I'm cool doing it in a year or so... but giving this the thumbs up with amazing votes of confidence listed above doesn't get me excited to have my kids be the guinea pigs.

Kids spread covid19, occasionally to adults.

The guinea pigs were the kids in the clinical trials. We can't say we know with certainty all the side of effects of aspirin, that's not how science works. That doesn't make the aspirin unsafe, nor are these shots unsafe for kids.

I can appreciate your admitting to not being enough of a citizen/patriot to vaccinate your kids. Most people try to hide their selfishness; not you. Bravo.

 

[Archie Moses]

My 9-year-old son has Covid. Poor kid.

I'm pretty sure I had it 2 weeks ago. I legit had a migraine on the left side for 4 days straight. It made my sinus cavities ache and even my teeth.

I felt super lethargic and slept maybe 4 hours in so many days.

It took a minute to schedule a test at my local Walgreens. When I tested, it was kinda weird, I had to do it myself in my truck in the pharmacy line. It took forever to get to the window cause I imagine others were doing the same thing.

I was feeling pretty damn good for the first time in 4 or 5 days when I tested. My results came back negative but I'm convinced I had it. I've never felt like that before.

My dad got it and he said his biggest symptom was a headache. My kid has a constant headache too - poor guy.

I'm vaccinated and support being vaccinated and, well, shockingly enough people's rights if they choose not to. Covid killed my mom too. ‍

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kids spread covid19, occasionally to adults.

The guinea pigs were the kids in the clinical trials. We can't say we know with certainty all the side of effects of aspirin, that's not how science works. That doesn't make the aspirin unsafe, nor are these shots unsafe for kids.

I can appreciate your admitting to not being enough of a citizen/patriot to vaccinate your kids. Most people try to hide their selfishness; not you. Bravo.

Yes and if those adults are vaccinated they don't die... according to the stats right?

The first small set of guinea pigs were the kids in the trials... there will be a whole lot more as it moves to the next phase. I am not unwilling to get the vaccine for my kids... I would like some time (6 months) for a bigger sample size. But yeah lets compare a new tech, new vax, to something that has been around forever.

Let's talk about citizenship too... what have those in the most at risk demographics done for kids? I live in a city with a dominant sun city community... those old assholes have delayed multiple school bonds from passing for 10+ years because they don't feel they should have to pay anything for those community improvements. But yeah I should rush my kids to the front of the line with a potential health risk (it might be miniscule... just want to see a bigger sample... that okay or nah?).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My 9-year-old son has Covid. Poor kid.

I'm pretty sure I had it 2 weeks ago. I legit had a migraine on the left side for 4 days straight. It made my sinus cavities ache and even my teeth.

I felt super lethargic and slept maybe 4 hours in so many days.

It took a minute to schedule a test at my local Walgreens. When I tested, it was kinda weird, I had to do it myself in my truck in the pharmacy line. It took forever to get to the window cause I imagine others were doing the same thing.

I was feeling pretty damn good for the first time in 4 or 5 days when I tested. My results came back negative but I'm convinced I had it. I've never felt like that before.

My dad got it and he said his biggest symptom was a headache. My kid has a constant headache too - poor guy.

I'm vaccinated and support being vaccinated and, well, shockingly enough people's rights if they choose not to. Covid killed my mom too. ‍

The headache was the consistent symptom in our house. Luckily for us it actually went away with Ibuprofen (not being sarcastic... I've had migraines that Ibuprofen doesn't seem to work on). I am sure you had it. The loss of taste and smell didn't come for a while.

I also got vaccinated. I am just a little worried about how my kids bodies will react. Its a reasonable fear. If the sample was 100k kids I'd feel pretty solid. I'm even fine with a mandate after a significant sample.

Sorry about your mom... really sucks.