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Derek Fisher, noted family man of faith, busted on DUI

Ron Mexico said:
A lot of people around the .08 level driving are probably driving more defensively and conservative than the average driver.
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This was me. I have drank and drove many many many times. So many that I can't even put a ballpark figure on it. (I have not drank and drive even once since the birth of my daughter. She just turned a year old. Thank god Uber is so awesome. Taxis suck)
Whenever I was drunk driving I drove slower, paid closer attention to what I was doing, told passengers (if there were any) to be quiet, etc.
I focused much more on my driving when I drove drunk due to the fear of a minor driving mistake (forgetting to use a blinker, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, etc) getting me a DUI.

When i drive sober I pay much less attention to my driving. I eat, mess with the radio, check my phone, speed, don't stop completely at stop signs, forget to use my blinker, rubber neck the things going on around me, etc etc etc.... stuff I would never do while driving drunk.

Plus I was usually driving drunk late at night/early morning when there is much less traffic too.

Some food for thought.
 
Ron Mexico said:
You can, but when something happens it's too late to do that and most people don't.

There are obviously huge scale of drunk driving as well. A lot of people around the .08 level driving are probably driving more defensively and conservative than the average driver.


We could also continue the list of things like eating, putting on makeup, driving while tired, texting and so on that like speeding are actually more dangerous than drunk driving but societies reaction is much different to those.

Almost every driver on the road makes selfish decisions that puts people's lives at risk around them. We just choose as a society to be more judgemental and punishing of someone doing one of those that statistically isn't the most dangerous.
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According to https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/...tions/by_the_numbers/drunk_driving/index.html alcohol was involved in 47 percent of pedestrian fatalities and 40 percent of vehicle occupant fatalities in 2010. Considering the extremely low percentage of drunk drivers compared to speeders and people talking on the phone I think it's safe to say driving drink is a FAR more dangerous behavior.
 
There's a difference between 0.08 driving and drunk driving imo.

Also, while we may think we are driving more cautiously when we're drunk, in reality, we aren't.
 
colton said:
One difference between driving while talking on a cell phone and drunk driving is that if you're on a cell phone and approaching a congested area where a delayed reaction time could cause issues you can always say, "Hang on, can't talk for a bit" or even "Bye, I'll call you back later." You can't do that if drunk. Plus, it would seem that talking on a cell phone just impairs your reaction time whereas drunk driving impairs your JUDGMENT as well as your reaction time.
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Everytime I see someone swerving in between lanes on I-15 they are on their ****ing phone.

PS if a corrola or a ford truck honks at you and starts giving you the hang up the phone hand signal then you should hang up the phone. I'm raging, I may follow you home.
 
Pretty sure the poor guy was getting a phenomenal BJ at the time of the acca.
Yeah I feel sorry for him


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JustTheTip said:
There's a difference between 0.08 driving and drunk driving imo.

Also, while we may think we are driving more cautiously when we're drunk, in reality, we aren't.
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Yeah, there is a pretty huge difference between buzzed driving and driving ****-faced.
 
♪alt13 said:
Everytime I see someone swerving in between lanes on I-15 they are on their ****ing phone.

PS if a corrola or a ford truck honks at you and starts giving you the hang up the phone hand signal then you should hang up the phone. I'm raging, I may follow you home.
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That's stupid. It's asking for violence.

Best to have a passenger call dispatch if possible. I've done that on crazy drivers and pulled over when the cops nabbed them and gave a statement.
 
colton said:
According to https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/...tions/by_the_numbers/drunk_driving/index.html alcohol was involved in 47 percent of pedestrian fatalities and 40 percent of vehicle occupant fatalities in 2010. Considering the extremely low percentage of drunk drivers compared to speeders and people talking on the phone I think it's safe to say driving drink is a FAR more dangerous behavior.
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There are a few problems with making that statement.

Also that statistic is deceiving. It includes anyone with any amount is alcohol in their system including passengers, people who were not at fault, passengers in a car not at fault. Also there are many other factors at play like when the wrecks are happening and why. Also levels of drunk are a huge factor. I can drive with a beer in me just the same as no beer. I would probably wreck most the time if I had 30 beers in me and decided to drive.

What percentage of wrecks involve speeders? What about cell phone use? Wrecks involved with texting and talking have sky rocketed to change those numbers a bit. Those are a little old. Also there are many more factors to that.

Plus many studies show your ability to drive under many circumstances is the same or worse as various levels alcohol.

I'm not justifying drunk driving it is bad. Even buzzed driving is bad. But equally wreckless and bad are behaviors most people do regularly. When you talk on you're phone you put people's lives at risk around you for you're own benefit just like a drunk driver.

So if it disgusts you that someone would drive drunk when they have options it should disgust you that someone talks on their phone, speeds, drives while sleepy and so on.

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