Let’s discuss Joe Ingles

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  1. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    It depends on the guys they are playing with. NBA players aren't going to the rec center and playing the guy in Jeans that hasn't played in 10 years that wants to undercut everyone on every layup. Guys are going to play much harder in an actual games which leads to greater risk and exertion... and more injuries.

    So it sucks that there is greater risk of injury... but for a guy like DM the experience and reps he gets I think will be valuable in his development... Joe is already perfect so there isn't much benefit for him.
     
  2. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    So just go back and identify lost games due to organized summer play and due to pickup games.
     
  3. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    This I can agree with. However it certainly didn't help him become whatever he will be.
     
  4. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I don't deny that the experience can be valuable. I just dispute the risk/reward assessment.
     
  5. hgb

    hgb Well-Known Member Contributor

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    And now Darius Miller ruptured his achilles playing 3-on-3.
     
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  6. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    0 way of knowing because none of this is reported.
     
  7. Saint Cy of JFC

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    The only logical complaint is that it starts your season earlier, so you dont have as much potential rest time. So it may increase your likelihood of injury during the season. But it may decrease your chance of injury as well since you will be in better shape to start camp.

    All of this is just people speculating on instances they can recall. No hard data.
     
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  8. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Saw that... sucks, but at least he got that bag before it happened... would have been super sad had he not gotten paid.
     
  9. silesian

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    All of below was reported from reputable sources, but then again folks often lie about it. And it does not include the other stuff they are doing besides playing in the international ball (remember Andrew Bynum?). And it was a 5 minute google search.

    *****Monte Ellis injured in pickup game. Devin booker reinsured his hand during a pickup game and this led to surgery and missed time. Ben McLemore. Brandon Knight. TJ Ford. Boogie.

    Goes way back. Michael Jordan missed three months after a Ron Artest elbow broke his ribs. And Larry Bird injured his back after being undercut during a charity game, shortening his career.*****
     
  10. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think its 6s one way half a dozen the other... I think the one potential knock would be less time for just skill development for younger guys, but I think the reps/experience likely trump that... was kinda shocked some of the dudes that said no that are on the younger side.

    Substituting a few practice/pickup sessions for hard fought games may ever so slightly increase the injury risk... the fatigue from games and travel may be an issue... we started our offseason a little early this year so I think we will be rested and ready to go.

    Injuries happen... these guys get a lot out of playing for their countries... I'm happy they get to participate and wish them all a safe return.
     
  11. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think Ellis got hurt on a moped, but he may have been hurt in a pickup game too.
     
  12. silesian

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  13. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Sure it is. Go see how many players missed games right at the beginning of the season and see how many had an injury reported during summer play, which always gets reported. Any that didn't show summer league play injuries assume they were pickup games.
     
  14. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Or they get injured playing pickup dont report to teams, play through it during the season then get hurt again.
    You cant know because its not reported.
     
  15. JFFR

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    Canada forced him right and Jingles attacked. Looks promising.


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  16. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    That’s some elite level ****.

    Start him and Bojan, then sub them both out 4-7 minutes in for Greene and O’Neale, then bring them back in to destroy other benches.
     
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  17. Rubashov

    Rubashov Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Joe's my boy!! Watched that game last night we spanked the canucks.
     
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  18. Jingled

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    This is exactly what I would do if I was Quin.
     
  19. Jazz Traveler

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    Seems like Ingles plays a little more confident and aggressive for Australia than he does for the Jazz. Love how he sees the floor.
     
  20. Douchebag K

    Douchebag K Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely he’s always seemed to play more free and aggressively for the Boomers, particularly scoring wise
     

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