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Good point
**** trump supporters. They are a lost cause and there is no way to sway them at all. The potential Democratic nominees shouldn't try to get any of their votes at all. Waste of time

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Man, you're way off the mark with who Bernie's supporters actually are. He's actually raised more money from women than any other Dem candidate. The narrative has always been about "Bernie Bros" but that's really not the reality of what's happening.

Also, Bernie kills with the working class. That's his base. I mean, he just won Iowa which is basically the definition of a working class Midwestern state.

Also this:



Sanders is the weakest candidate against trump, especially in swing states. Why do you think Trump keeps pumping up Sanders? He wants to face him.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/opinions/trump-bernie-election-avlon/index.html

The President was at it again on the eve of the Iowa caucus, tweeting that the Democratic National Committee was trying to "rig the election against Sanders," even as he called Bernie Sanders a "communist" in a pre-Super Bowl safe-space interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News.

It's been a repeated riff for months. Conservative commentator Hugh Hewitt on "Meet The Press" announced that he was voting for Bernie in Virginia's open primary -- because he wanted a clear contrast between an authentic socialist and Donald Trump.

This isn't subtle. Team Trump wants to run against Bernie Sanders. If you don't believe me, just ask them.

"We're trying to promote the rise," an unnamed Trump adviser told Jonathan Swann from Axios. "The campaign has been pumping up the national messaging behind Bernie, pushing out fundraising emails. When you attack his policies, it gets the media to talk about him."

so why does the Trump team want to pump up Bernie Sanders' chances? Hint: It's not because they share some of the same protectionist impulses on trade or isolationist impulses on foreign policies, as Trump has argued in the past. And it's not because Trump and Sanders were the two candidates being pushed by Russian trolls and bots in the 2016 election.

It's because Donald Trump does best running against a self-described socialist, beating a socialist by an average of six points, despite currently losing to the named top-tier Democratic candidates in head-to-head match-ups.

The candidate who has consistently done best against Trump head to head -- including in crucial swing states -- is Joe Biden.

and

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a4fac8-491a-11ea-bdbf-1dfb23249293_story.html

Former senator Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.), a supporter of former vice president Joe Biden, has an answer: If Sanders is the Democratic nominee, he will have a “very difficult time” beating President Trump and will pose a “serious threat to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s ability to retain control of the House,” Axios reported.

Dodd’s assessment was echoed by Ami Bera (Calif.), co-chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s Frontline program, which raises funds to reelect Democratic House members. During an interview with BuzzFeed News this week, Bera said, “If Bernie Sanders is our nominee, it’ll make a lot of these Trump districts that we picked up extremely competitive and probably does put our House majority in jeopardy.”

The bleakest assessment came from Marshall Matz, a policy adviser for Sen. George McGovern’s 1972 presidential bid, who said that if Sanders is nominated, Democrats should expect the sort of landslide loss that McGovern suffered to President Richard M. Nixon. “He would not just lose but would lose badly,” Matz told the Stamford Advocate.

I feel like the blueprint was made in 2018. Run left of center moderates, focus on health care and Trump’s corruption, and win over moderates/conservatives disenchanted with Trump. In Utah, we won with someone like Ben McAdams. If a Democratic Socialist had run against Mia Love, she would’ve been re-elected easily.
 
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I think the people who think it is awesome are already not voting for trump. And I doubt it impacts swing voters. They already know he is uncouth.

Completely disagree. The audience is swing voters who need to be continually reminded that despite the economy humming along, we are losing what makes America so great.

Trump’s vulgarity and corruption must always be remembered. id much rather remind voters about that, than Bernie Sanders’ Socialism and going to the USSR on a honeymoon and reparations and busing And whatever other stupid *** “woke” subject we were debating last debate.
 
Not that this is breaking news but I gotta think a huge portion of Trump’s followers are religious. Southerners, Catholic Hispanics, white conservatives. Anyway, it’s hilarious to me how these fools support him given his completely anti-Christian (aka deplorable) behavior over the past four years. Not surprising though as I find many (most?) religious people to be complete and utter ****ing hypocrites. Sorry if I’m offending the decent ones here.
 
Not that this is breaking news but I gotta think a huge portion of Trump’s followers are religious. Southerners, Catholic Hispanics, white conservatives. Anyway, it’s hilarious to me how these fools support him given his completely anti-Christian (aka deplorable) behavior over the past four years. Not surprising though as I find many (most?) religious people to be complete and utter ****ing hypocrites. Sorry if I’m offending the decent ones here.
This. 100% this. I expect a lot of douchebags and dumbasses in this country to support Trump.
What I don't expect is people who have high, christ-like morals to support such scum.



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Sanders is the weakest candidate against trump, especially in swing states. Why do you think Trump keeps pumping up Sanders? He wants to face him.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/opinions/trump-bernie-election-avlon/index.html



and

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a4fac8-491a-11ea-bdbf-1dfb23249293_story.html



I feel like the blueprint was made in 2018. Run left of center moderates, focus on health care and Trump’s corruption, and win over moderates/conservatives disenchanted with Trump. In Utah, we won with someone like Ben McAdams. If a Democratic Socialist had run against Mia Love, she would’ve been re-elected easily.
Here's a tip, if Chris Cilliza is saying one thing, it's almost a certainty the opposite is true. And of course a Biden surrogate is saying Bernie isn't as electable as Biden, I mean, duh.

As for Trump wishing for Bernie, he may be making the exact mistake Hillary made in 2016. It's possible for Trump to be wrong about something, likely even. There's this idea that Trump is a political genius, but the truth is he got ridiculously lucky in 2016.
 
This. 100% this. I expect a lot of douchebags and dumbasses in this country to support Trump.
What I don't expect is people who have high, christ-like morals to support such scum.



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this is essentially why a decent human being like @colton dumped his ***.

just wonder why it took so long. months and months before he ever was even elected it became blatantly obvious what a complete and utter pos and dumbass he was. the guy brings literally nothing to the table other than he wasn’t a D or Hilary, whatever the **** that means.
 
Here's a tip, if Chris Cilliza is saying one thing, it's almost a certainty the opposite is true. And of course a Biden surrogate is saying Bernie isn't as electable as Biden, I mean, duh.

As for Trump wishing for Bernie, he may be making the exact mistake Hillary made in 2016. It's possible for Trump to be wrong about something, likely even. There's this idea that Trump is a political genius, but the truth is he got ridiculously lucky in 2016.

I’m not going to argue about Chris Clizza.

I will argue whether it’s TRUMP deciding that he wants to run against Bernie. Trump is a ****ing moron. But the people running his campaign aren’t. Republicans have the best and most well funded political machine out there. They’re the ones deciding that Bernie is the candidate they want to run against. Why? Because he has soooo many warts for Sinclair, the Kochs, and Fox News to exploit. In head to head matchups both he and warren poll the worst against trump.

Never Trumpers are warning us and for good reason. They know that their former colleagues will hit us hard. They’ll exploit all the scary words “Socialist” and make it sound like Sanders was Vladimir’s and Trotesky’s love child.

They won’t be able to do that with Biden, Bloomberg, or Klobuchar.

Why make it so easy for republicans to do that?
 
this is essentially why a decent human being like @colton dumped his ***.

just wonder why it took so long. months and months before he ever was even elected it became blatantly obvious what a complete and utter pos and dumbass he was. the guy brings literally nothing to the table other than he wasn’t a D or Hilary, whatever the **** that means.

speaking of @colton would you ever consider voting for Klobuchar or Biden if they were facing Trump in the general? What are the chances that you would vote for them over third party/Trump?

What are the chances You would vote for Bernie Sanders?

Just curious, because my theory is that expanding the electorate to win votes from conservatives is a better option than swinging further left in hopes of pandering to the furthest left “woke” group. I feel like candidates like Ben McAdams, Don McGready, and Klobuchar are far more electable than the AOC and Bernie types. It held true in 2018 and I think it’ll hold true in 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/upshot/2020-North-Carolina-moderate-democrats.html
 
speaking of @colton would you ever consider voting for Klobuchar or Biden if they were facing Trump in the general? What are the chances that you would vote for them over third party/Trump?

What are the chances You would vote for Bernie Sanders?

Just curious, because my theory is that expanding the electorate to win votes from conservatives is a better option than swinging further left in hopes of pandering to the furthest left “woke” group. I feel like candidates like Ben McAdams, Don McGready, and Klobuchar are far more electable than the AOC and Bernie types. It held true in 2018 and I think it’ll hold true in 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/upshot/2020-North-Carolina-moderate-democrats.html

not sure I’d vote for Biden over trump tbpfh.
 
They won’t be able to do that with Biden, Bloomberg, or Klobuchar.

They'll throw the word socialist out at all of them. They've done it to every Dem candidate for decades. Maybe it wouldn't stick to Bloomberg because he's basically a Republican.
 
I’m not going to argue about Chris Clizza.

I will argue whether it’s TRUMP deciding that he wants to run against Bernie. Trump is a ****ing moron. But the people running his campaign aren’t. Republicans have the best and most well funded political machine out there. They’re the ones deciding that Bernie is the candidate they want to run against. Why? Because he has soooo many warts for Sinclair, the Kochs, and Fox News to exploit. In head to head matchups both he and warren poll the worst against trump.

Never Trumpers are warning us and for good reason. They know that their former colleagues will hit us hard. They’ll exploit all the scary words “Socialist” and make it sound like Sanders was Vladimir’s and Trotesky’s love child.

They won’t be able to do that with Biden, Bloomberg, or Klobuchar.

Why make it so easy for republicans to do that?

They're going to do that to all of them. It doesn't matter.
 
Completely disagree. The audience is swing voters who need to be continually reminded that despite the economy humming along, we are losing what makes America so great.

Trump’s vulgarity and corruption must always be remembered. id much rather remind voters about that, than Bernie Sanders’ Socialism and going to the USSR on a honeymoon and reparations and busing And whatever other stupid *** “woke” subject we were debating last debate.

Respectfully disagree. Everyone knows trump is an ignorant bully. And he won. And he will win again with this losing strategy.

BRAND HIM AN IMPOTENT LOSER.
 
this is essentially why a decent human being like @colton dumped his ***.

just wonder why it took so long. months and months before he ever was even elected it became blatantly obvious what a complete and utter pos and dumbass he was. the guy brings literally nothing to the table other than he wasn’t a D or Hilary, whatever the **** that means.
I mean, speaking for me personally I was a never Trumper essentially from day 1 of his campaign. I just maintained a shred of hope for the party until the impeachment showed it was irredeemable, so didn't officially leave until the trial was over.
 
speaking of @colton would you ever consider voting for Klobuchar or Biden if they were facing Trump in the general? What are the chances that you would vote for them over third party/Trump?

What are the chances You would vote for Bernie Sanders?

Just curious, because my theory is that expanding the electorate to win votes from conservatives is a better option than swinging further left in hopes of pandering to the furthest left “woke” group. I feel like candidates like Ben McAdams, Don McGready, and Klobuchar are far more electable than the AOC and Bernie types. It held true in 2018 and I think it’ll hold true in 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/upshot/2020-North-Carolina-moderate-democrats.html
I would almost certainly vote for Biden or Klobuchar. Or Yang, even. Don't know enough about Bloomberg. Mixed feelings about Buttigieg. Probably would not vote for Warren. And would never in a million years vote for Sanders.
 
Not a cult...



why don’t these guys finally just come out with it? Anyone who desire Trump is going to be arrested and placed in a camp?


I've met Schlapp and his wife. Amazing folks. I understand Trump credits Schlapp for talking him into running for Pres. I've attended a local CPAC conference, and I assure you Trump will be safe there, just hugged and kissed by all the girls.

My wife had very high expectations before she met me, but I understand she was so thrilled to meet Rush Limbaugh circa 1990, she planted a kiss on his cheeks.

The thing libs will never understand about conservatives include all the ordinary accoutrements of civilized respect and human kindness, which have not survived the ravages of secular humanism, let alone Marxist progressive imperatives.

libs have lost the true arts of humor, as well.
 
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