"Blood thirsty warmongers- do I have to educate you on this subject you stupid idiot? You're so dumb and I'm so smart. Instead of actually talk I'll just brag that I know a lot."
I was being honest on this and I'll also point out how trolling and name calling has been allowed far far before this. I have receipts too.
Which specific procurement would you like to know about? Because I can really break it down pretty cleanly for you if you're actually interested. This is really a Fox News talking point but it bears almost no relationship to reality if you pay attention to how all of this works.
Ok break it down then. Let's see it. 75 billion dollars... This post is extremely vague and does no such thing.
Here's me asking him to break i down yet here are two troll post that you didn't address surprisingly.
Why is every unhinged conservative in here up our *** about Biden. Nobody here likes him, really. Sorry he dumped your boy Trump, but It's not like he's very removed from any of your ****** values. This country is so weird.
I made this:
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Calling me unhinged(he was talking about me) is ok apparently.
Great answer.
He is a known troll, btw, albeit not a very successful one. So that might save you some time.
Here's Log starting fights calling other trolls which is allowed for some reason. I even asked you to stop this. So I'm confused just like you why this is allowed. Isn't trolling wrong?
So SteakNEggs and Mongoose, are you actually interested in a real discussion of this topic or is this just a partisan thing?
I'm asking because I don't think either of you know me, but I can pretty much guarantee you my knowledge base on Russia/Ukraine is a LOT larger than either of yours.
Here is the part I was talking about in the post you warned me about. This is him telling me how stupid I am and that I do not know anything? Right? Yes, he is literally telling me how dumb I am and that he needs to educate me.
My answer
What makes you think I'm not besides others lying about me being a troll? I have given you nothing but respect. You are listening to the bully crowd that has offered nothing but insults while I've responded to you.
I asked you specifically what the endgame is here and you even admitted to my concern that Ukraine is a historically corrupt country. Russia started mobilizing days after Biden reallowed Putin to start with on Nord. Right?
This is fact. I provided two of these post above. The conversation is civil though I found sir's post a bit cocky. There's good conversation going on and the there's this post... Nothing major admittedly but just to add it
Same as WW2. Unconditional surrender.
Also, I love how all of you pro-Russian types like to pretend to be neutral, but your neutrality leads to Russia winning. It's like me saying "I'm against the tank, but let's shut Lauri down for the season." Like I'm so stupid, I don't know what the consequences of that are.
Being anti-war is not pro-Russia
Here's you allowing another poster to troll and do basically what i did(I used Thrillers same format just replaced troll with warmongers) which they were doing by definition. Notice how this is allowed. Openly trolling and this was allowed.
Troll: Why are we supporting Ukraine? What do we want?
Poster 1: Russia invaded Ukraine and we want Russia to leave.
Troll: But why are we supporting Ukraine? What do we want?
Poster 2: Ukraine is a young democracy and a sovereign nation. They’ve been invaded and we should help them out militarily to defend themselves from an aggressor country. If we don’t stop Russia now, when? The costs will most likely be higher later.
Troll: But why are we supporting Ukraine? Here are some poor sources filled with Russian disinformation.
Poster 3: That’s Russian disinformation. Let me provide you with much needed historical context.
Troll: But why are we supporting Ukraine? What do we want? You guys are so bloodthirsty!
Sigh, this is what happens when trolls overrun a mostly unmoderated message board. It’s almost not worth reading or posting here anymore. Troll on
So here after the what I find was a decent conversation here is the part that goes back to my first sentence you reported me on. After Sir telling me how smart he was he ran away. This is what I was referring to. I posted above how he literally admits he's smarter now he ran away.
Alright guys I tried. You were right, he's not worth the effort. It would just be throwing time down a well for me to keep engaging. He's just decided letting Russia win is cheaper and that's the whole analysis.
Russia's pre-war army basically doesn't exist. They've suffered more casualties than their entire initial invasion force.
Current tactics basically treat human life as the most expendable resource, which is why you're seeing casualty rates increase rather than decrease as fighting continues. Strategy is not being structured around avoiding casualties. Sadly, this is pretty much the historical trend for all Russian warfare going back 600 years.
It's a war that's ultimately going to be about economic production power and industrial capacity. The first stages of the war were defined by delivery and supply logistics. The next stages over who can keep their guys in the fight. The entire Russian strategy is literally to hope guys like SteakNEggs eventually become the majority in the United States. They think the west is weak, and will surrender the second we prick our finger. While strong russians will break their backs before they give up. The plan is to say their pain threshold is so much higher than ours, that they can lose all the way to victory.
Don't be a useful idiot who encourages them!
Here's Sir basically blaming me for the war. That being anti-war is going to turn America into pro-Russia somehow.... This is the guy that supposed to educate me, yet here he is saying it's going to my fault Russia wins. I have not said a negative thing yet. This post literally " encourages or advocates aggression towards other countries or groups". This post is pro-war. Right? This is exactly what I was referring to in my post you quoted. He said he was smarter than me yet he really never added much.
If we didn’t already have the answer, we certainly do now!
I was answering questions and putting in effort. Now what exactly was Thriller adding here Jason besides trying to push buttons and obviously trolling? Was has he added besides trolling me? I've added plenty.
I know damn well what unconditional surrender will take. I mean, I've lived through a war, but hey, you seem to be the expert on everything here. Armchairing FTW.
The cost of defeating Russia will be tremendous, but the cost of not defeating Russia is your soul. Again, though, I'm not talking out of my *** here. I'm talking as a grandson of a man who deserted a collaborationist army in occupied Europe in WW2 to fight the Nazis as a guerrilla and the son of a man who was gone for 3 years of my childhood so that he could, in his words "fight for his country, against his people" because he believed it was right. You don't want war? Trust me, my dad and granddad didn't either. Nor did anyone on my mum's side, but you know, they were Jewish. Peace treaties and diplomacy sound nice from whatever podunk place in 'Murica you're from. Less so from under a pile of corpses.
I never claimed to be an expert on anything I was simply putting my opinion out. I have still yet to say anything negative about posters other than pointing out how Thriller and Log got away with blatant trolling.
Most of the worlds dictators were put into power by you guys so I find that unlikely
By me? Calling people factual warmongers is ok but blaming me for putting dictators in is absolutely fine apparently. Lets define warmonger once again "encourages or advocates aggression towards other countries or groups".
I don't say this lightly sir:
****
YOU
There is no word strong enough in English, so I'll use the one that applies here: пиздец. Completely and totally.
Bypassing swear filters is ok apparently if it's in another language. Here's me explaining myself
I meant what I said. You are openly pursuing and pushing war. How is that not mongering? And yes... I understand suffering having one of my best friends literally being turned to red f*ing mist by an IED in Afghanistan over another pointless needless ******** war like the one you are pushing me to support and get behind. I'm sick of us fighting the world's battles. I'm sorry to be blunt but **** this war and **** all the pain it's causing. I don't want no part of this quest for more bloodlust
And spare me with your little victim playing bs. I didn't appreciate you starting the name calling and insults as I was civil with you until your gang of wannabe bullies told you how to act and to be an *** yourself. You started it, not me. Dunning kruger effect and talking down to me like Im your child. You continually pushed your own insults so how about you not cry when someone says stuff you don't appreciate. You are a sad little victim of your own bullying. You dish it but can't take it. You continually talked down to me thinking I have absolutely no right to say I do not want war and this is not our fight. You telling how stupid I am and how smart you are. I stand by my comments 100%. This war has costed me plenty as far as financial with the the repercussion we are feeling here. Right? High gas prices? Massive inflation? Food prices skyrocketing.
Again... I voted against this war. This war would've never happened if my candidate was in office. Don't point you little war loving fingers at me. If that bothers you how about you not openly push war?
Here's me knowing what warmonger means. Admittedly I was a little fired up and ans went overboard after him blaming me and insinuating I am the reason American is going to back Putin. That's pretty messed up but allowed for whatever rason. He IS pushing for war. Right? So, it's ok for Sir to blame me and tell me that it's my fault that America is going to turn to Putin(that pretty f*'ed up but you allowed it), but I can't blame him. I admit I could've been a bit better here. I can admit my faults.
What does this board gain by having Jazzy stick around and harass members? We all know who Steak and Mongoose are. Why not ban them right now? And if he creates alt accounts, ban them too when it becomes obvious that he's not going to attempt to abide by rules set by the board. When was the last time he even attempted to discuss issues with people?
What is gained by letting obvious trolls continue to derail threads?
At some pt, the lack of moderation; the unwillingness to uphold the rules set by moderators with letting pieces of **** .who get their rocks off by harassing people online, becomes a detraction to this board. I think we're well past that pt. Here we have someone with actual experience in Ukraine and Russia, someone with real connections to the situation, and he's harassed nonstop by this pathetic troll.
Here's another troll post accusing me of being an alt and accusing me of harassing when I have done no such thing. This is a pretty messed up post that was allowed Jason. Maybe if you would've stopped it here or any of the other multiple times I brought up these things wouldn't escalate. That's my opinion. Not one post of mine was trolling. Not a single post. Can you explain why this wasn't stopped? Why thriller log and Game are allowed to come in and stir the pot? They have nothing about the topic at hand. I have added plenty.
At some pt, the lack of moderation; the unwillingness to uphold the rules set by moderators with letting pieces of ****
Here's more of my own confusion...Calling people "pieces of ****" is ok but rightfully and factually by definition calling people warmongers is not. Even though these people are literally "encouraging or advocating aggression towards other countries or groups."
Oh did he do that? So, that's who Marx was. You learn new stuff every day, I swear. I guess my confusion is stemming from the fact that you've repeatedly described Russia as Marxist. I mean I know a country that covered the same geographic region definitely attempted communism but that was called the Soviet Union and has little resemblance to modern, capitalist, Russia. But I guess I'll take your word for it. You're the expert on Marx, probably.
I would consider this passive aggressive trolling but not a big deal. I never claimed to be an expert. Unlike Safety I did provide multiple articles that backed my point up. All he did was openly mock me which seems like trolling.
Oh wow, He really is an expert on Marx and Communism TOO!
More light hearted trolling. Not a big deal but pointing that out.
Quick, Somebody visit Putin on one of his many super yachts (pictured below) and tell him that he's actually a Marxist-Leninist.
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Again no big deal but obvious trolling adding nothing but passive aggressiveness.
This guy really is just discovering Marxism, in real time, publicly, on a Jazz forum, in a thread about the war in Ukraine.
The internet was a mistake.
Now this is blatant trolling lol but again no big deal.
Think of all the time you could have saved learning the language, traveling there, making human connections with people who have first hand knowledge of the issues. All you had to do was ask some ****ing blowhard ******* on Jazzfanz.com what his uneducated hot take was.
Jason? Calling someone a "****ing bloward *****" is acceptable?
This should have been stopped a long time ago imo.
