Oh this is good.Tell him when he hies to Kolob he'll see it's flat just like the Earth.
Oh this is good.Tell him when he hies to Kolob he'll see it's flat just like the Earth.
That’s if you actually end up moving up two rows in the end.Any scenario where we bring Favors back is, at best, a marginal upgrade. I know the Favors issue has been somewhat polarizing to people, in that they only see it as black and white, but having Favors precludes any legitimate changes. Favors and Rozier? Great. That’s like paying an additional 30% to move up two rows at Usana. Yeah, you’re seats are “better.” Hooray for upgrades via technicality.
“We kinda like our seats, and there’s a chance the singer comes into the crowd right next to us. Why would we throw that chance to the wind? It would be incredible!”That’s if you actually end up moving up two rows in the end.
Favors in a S&T to a team over the cap could be a nice move if you can get him to sign a cheaper deal. An win-now team that needs a modern NBA 5 could maybe send a pick, prospect, or decent player?
-Milwaukee (if they lose Lopez and Mirotic)
-Charlotte
-GS (if they lose one of their guys)
-Clippers (Gallinari: they take back substantially less money and could open another max slot while retaining a good piece)
-Lakers (who knows WTF they’re doing?)
-Dallas
Just spitballing.
We’d simultaneously, necessarily lose his Bird Rights as well? That sucks.We couldn't do a sign and trade because we'd have to waive him... then he isn't our free agent.
That might make sense. What's your source?Looking into it, retired players are paid their contract, it just doesnt count against the cap and teams often work out a payment plan with the player.
Rozier's value depends on Donovan more than anyone else. What does he think of Rozier?
My fan opinion is that Rozier is a fantastic bulldog type we need at PG if we keep Donovan at SG. He could share PG with Exum to give us pretty damn good PG depth and defense. Rozier doesn't have to have the ball but he can attack and get streaky hot.
I would put Rozier about 7th or 8th on my list of targets, but I would love to have him if the others fall through.
What's your source?Lmao... the guy who constantly takes Ls from me in CBA stuff declares something incorrect before actually looking it up.
That might make sense. What's your source?
It might be if your guy is Hayward who has an extremely difficult time befriending NBA players.It doesn't matter what Donovan thinks of him, Donovan's not the GM. Signing players because they're friends with your star player is no way to run a team.
What's your source?
We’d simultaneously, necessarily lose his Bird Rights as well? That sucks.
That doesn’t change my larger stance.
Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?Dan Clayton says the cap hit stays if he retires... Only way it comes off is under medical retirement. Would take a year and he doesn't have a medical issue.
http://saltcityhoops.com/offseason-qa-1-favors-korver-current/
CBA FAQs says addresses this...
13. Exactly what is included when computing total team salaries? What is cap room? What is a cap hold?
A team's cap room (referred to simply as "room" in the CBA) refers to its ability to sign players to free agent contracts. If a team is above the cap, then its room is limited to the exceptions it possesses. If the team is below the cap, then its room is how far it is below the cap when all salaries and cap holds are included. Cap holds are "placeholders" for players the team is expected to sign in the future. For example, a team is expected to sign its unsigned first round draft pick, so an amount is reserved for this signing in the form of a cap hold. A team $10 million below the cap with $4 million in cap holds therefore has $6 million in room. A team $5 million under the cap with $6 million in cap holds is not considered to be under the cap at all, and must use exceptions to sign players. The following are included in team salary:
- Salaries of all active and inactive players1, including likely bonuses.
- The full season salary of any players the team acquires in midseason trades.
- Salaries paid or payable to waived players, minus any set-off amounts2 and subject to the Stretch provision (see question number 65).
- Any salary still being paid to retired players (see question number 61).
Keep stacking them Ls... waiver process yesterday... retirement cap hit... then doubling down declaring me to be the one taking the L
Well that’s the only circumstance he comes back for me; both parties strike out and we get a bargain.Yeah only way we remove his current salary is by waiving him which makes him a free agent. Can't use some other team's free agent in a sign and trade and we'd no longer have bird rights.
Basically Favs is either back at $18M or on another team's roster. Maybe he would come back and negotiate a long term deal with us after clearing waivers but that seems like a long shot and would require us to be his only or last solid option of getting a long term deal.
1) “guaranteed contract” isn’t ambiguous.Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?
And the salary cap FAQ is ambiguous and does not directly answer this question. It just says any money paid to retired players counts against the cap. But it doesn't say the actual salary must be paid.
Dan Clayton doesn't know everything, although he is often good with this stuff. What was his source?
And the salary cap FAQ is ambiguous and does not directly answer this question. It just says any money paid to retired players counts against the cap. But it doesn't say the actual salary must be paid.