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LogGrad98 said:
Which free agents? 2? Vet minimums with checkered pasts? Ok yeah, that's exactly the same. Obvi you don't pay attention to the rest of the league.
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What are you talking about?

Tobias Harris wanted to come to Utah.
Bobby Portis wanted to come to Utah.

Once Bogdonavich heard we were heavily interested, he really wanted to come.

Jeff Green came here bc he wants to win a championship.

Jared Dudley wanted to come here for the same reason.

Those are all good, solid veteran players that wanted to come to Utah. Are they elite stars? No. We're not going to attract those. We never have. Utah had two HOF players for damn near two decades and still wasn't a FA destination. Utah is now, for the majority of players.

But hey, you pay attention. What would have made you happy?
 
Deron Williams said:
C-

Jazz gave up a lot for potentially only one year of Conley. I think the risk he opts out and the Jazz are forced to either a) lose him or b) sign him to a big 4-year deal is understated. If you assume AD stays in LA, Conley & Draymond look to be the best potential UFAs in the 2020 class. If he has a good year, there's very little reason for Conley not to opt out and trade some 2020-21 salary for much more $$ long-term.

The advanced metrics don't like Bojan. The BBIndex guy had the Jazz w/52 wins w/Favors and 48 w/Bojan. I get the idea that you can find 80% of Favors (Davis) more cheaply than you find a high quality stretch 4, and I understand there are fit issues w/Derrick next to Gobert. Still, I think the contract is poor value, and it's hard for me to picture a frontcourt with the athleticism of Bojan/Ingles advancing super deep into the playoffs.

I think Green and especially Davis were good pickups. I guess there's something to be said for mixing things up and taking a shot, but I suspect the Jazz will bow out in Round 2. They haven't done anything franchise crippling, but they've sacrificed some long-term assets and flexibility and not greatly enhanced their chances of winning the West, imo.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Can advanced metrics account for team fit? Don't think so. I just think we are much better off with more shooting than favors with Rudy.

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RandyForRubio said:
Big name FA's? Yeah, we might never get those.

But we have stars in Mitchell and Gobert. We were able to bring in a very good FA in Bogdonavich, and a good vet min signing in Green. Those probably don't happen without Conley. Those signing matter a lot too.
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We definitely don’t get Green (atleast for the minimum) without Conley. His relationship with him is a big reason why he signed here.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Not so much, how does Livingston compare to, say, Exum, or Mudiay. Also it's a bit different when you are running out top-3 guys at their position, perennial all-stars at multiple positions, and perennial MVP candidates. You can absorb that when you have 2 (and it was 3 for a couple of years there) of the maybe 4 guys on the planet capable of going like 9 for 14 from 3 and dropping 40+ on any given night.
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Lol. Exum isn’t a project, O’Neale Davis Green,Niang
LogGrad98 said:
Just a cursory glance shows Livingston, Iguodala, Cousins, Bogut on the team right now. In the past they have had David Lee, Leandro Barbosa, McGee, Pachulia, Clark (who turned into a 3-pt machine while he was there), Nick young. Yeah, not a boat-load of A-listers off the bench, but a few just past their prime, and sure some projects as well, but always with fully serviceable and experienced veteran role-players for depth. We are pinning our hopes of depth on Mudiay, Green, Exum and 4 2nd-rounders drafted this year. Not exactly the same.
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green and Green and Exum aren’t projects. Lol
 
I'll give it a B. I like Conley, don't mind what we gave up for him and think he should be solid. For late 2nd's our rookies have been looking great so far. We've made some good signings at the end of the rotation/fringes (Davis/Green/Mudiay). The deal I'm not sold on is Bogdanovic, he's a good starter who should fit well, just think it was an overpay and think we'd have been better served breaking that money into 2 different players (I think guys like Thad Young/Aminu could've filled the starting 4 spot well and we could've still had money for another solid role guy). Oh well, I do think we've taken a step forward and am really hoping we can contend next season!
 
RandyForRubio said:
What are you talking about?

Tobias Harris wanted to come to Utah.
Bobby Portis wanted to come to Utah.

Once Bogdonavich heard we were heavily interested, he really wanted to come.

Jeff Green came here bc he wants to win a championship.

Jared Dudley wanted to come here for the same reason.

Those are all good, solid veteran players that wanted to come to Utah. Are they elite stars? No. We're not going to attract those. We never have. Utah had two HOF players for damn near two decades and still wasn't a FA destination. Utah is now, for the majority of players.

But hey, you pay attention. What would have made you happy?
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Mike conley was another major reason why Jeff Green wanted to come here
 
UtahJazz32 said:
Davis doesn't have much of a jumper but he can drive dunk do put backs and such
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My biggest fear when losing Favors concerned offensive rebounding. Favs killed teams with putbacks at critical moments. Signing Ed Davis has really alleviated those concerns for me.
 
Udidthizz said:
My biggest fear when losing Favors concerned offensive rebounding. Favs killed teams with putbacks at critical moments. Signing Ed Davis has really alleviated those concerns for me.
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We don't lose rebounding but will now lack favs erray of offensive post moves.
Bojan and Green make up for it in the perimeter. Davis will just be boards and putbacks
 
RandyForRubio said:
What are you talking about?

Tobias Harris wanted to come to Utah.
Bobby Portis wanted to come to Utah.

Once Bogdonavich heard we were heavily interested, he really wanted to come.

Jeff Green came here bc he wants to win a championship.

Jared Dudley wanted to come here for the same reason.

Those are all good, solid veteran players that wanted to come to Utah. Are they elite stars? No. We're not going to attract those. We never have. Utah had two HOF players for damn near two decades and still wasn't a FA destination. Utah is now, for the majority of players.

But hey, you pay attention. What would have made you happy?
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A championship. Nothing less.

But obviously you don't pay attention. I've said I'm happy with our moves. They did something. I am just not pretending that a few underachievers and projects = championship depth. I would have preferred portis over both green and Mudiay combined. I would prefer we trade Exum for portis maybe or a solid 4. I don't see any of those FA signings beyond Conley and bog as any kind of coup. In no way do they represent an opening of the flood Gates. I think when we signed him that Joe Johnson was a far better get than either green or Mudiay.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Lol. Exum isn’t a project, O’Neale Davis Green,Niang

green and Green and Exum aren’t projects. Lol
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Turn in your analysis card. Exum is a lifetime project. Mudiay is a project. All of the 2nd rounders are projects. Niang is a project. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
 
Mudiay has been in the league for 4 years and averaged 14 points. If he’s still a project, DAMN!! He’s going to be good. Niang is who he is. Same with Exum.
 
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