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Red

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Senate report suggesting the evidence most likely points to the Wuhan lab leak theory.
Yes, the ProPublica/Vanity Fair report I posted traced and examined the evidence developed by that Senate Report. We might bear in mind that the ProPublica/Vanity Fair report ended with this short statement:

Clarification, Oct. 28, 2022: This story has been updated to clarify that Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona, said two recent papers by him and his colleagues established that “a natural zoonotic origin is the only plausible scenario for the origin of the pandemic.”

This appears to be the July, 2022 paper with Worobey as lead author:


And the second paper mentioned, also from July, 2022:

 
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Keefe

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100% agree. He engages honestly.

I get that this has become a mostly centrist space (anyone who wants to say this is some sort of liberal echo chamber, I invite you to make that case) and that right leaning ideas might be attacked and even labeled as far-right or even extremist perspectives. I'm also going to agree that American standard left leaning ideas are given a pass a lot of times where right leaning ideas are not.

Bucknutz has taken the high road and engaged honestly even when the same has not been offered in return.

Great post. The left is so close-minded and unwilling to listen to oftentimes logical, fair points the right makes at times. Which is ironic. Because that was a huge fault of the right for decades. Still is too I guess. But now the left is doing that same ****. Sad.
 
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One Brow

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Bucknutz has taken the high road and engaged honestly even when the same has not been offered in return.
There are five or so other conservatives I wish had his tolerance, whose viewpoints I valued even when disagreeing with them. I should have been more clear on that back when they were regulars.
 

Rubashov

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Dude I’ve got spike proteins in places you couldn’t imagine


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Archie Moses

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My uncle died unexpectedly in his recliner on Thursday. My dad told me last night that they're not going to do an autopsy and his death is from natural causes which seems weird to me. I thought autopsies were done when the death has questions or is unclear. I talked to my dad some more about what he thought and he really doesn't know. We discussed Covid being a possibility and then a little bit about how it seems to be going around more with people we know.

After the discussion I thought about my mom's death in 2020 and all the questions I had, still have but was never answered because of my family telling me to let it go and not look more into it. They basically told me it was her time to go while I was asking to know how her health care management, or mismanagement, was a possible factor in her death. Basically, I wanted to know if it was preventable.
 

Keefe

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My uncle died unexpectedly in his recliner on Thursday. My dad told me last night that they're not going to do an autopsy and his death is from natural causes which seems weird to me. I thought autopsies were done when the death has questions or is unclear. I talked to my dad some more about what he thought and he really doesn't know. We discussed Covid being a possibility and then a little bit about how it seems to be going around more with people we know.

After the discussion I thought about my mom's death in 2020 and all the questions I had, still have but was never answered because of my family telling me to let it go and not look more into it. They basically told me it was her time to go while I was asking to know how her health care management, or mismanagement, was a possible factor in her death. Basically, I wanted to know if it was preventable.

Wait? What? Your mom passed away a couple years ago? I’m so sorry brotha. Is this the nice lady I followed on FB if I recall correctly? I think you said she was a bit wacky.

Anyway, yeah **** that noise about letting things be. When my brother committed suicide (with his girlfriend at the time present), I wanted to make sure it was just that. Suicide. I wasn’t anxious or paranoid or anything like that. I wanted facts and to know things were certain. So I contacted the cornerer, got a copy of his report, wanted to make sure gunpowder residue was on his hands, etc. Cause frankly I didn’t know his young Asian gf and who knows what could’ve really happened. But based on all the science, I felt comfortable and still do knowing what I thought occurred was actually what did occur. No regrets. I remember my dad before I contacted the coroner saying, “What if he didn’t do it and Jen had something to do with it? Think about how that would affect your mom,” or something. I was blown away and not in a good way by my dad who was always to that day and since a “brave” man, and my basic retort was, “idgaf. God forbid this girl did something or killed him. I want to know. She needs to be held accountable.”

If all that makes sense. I’m a little buzzed now. Just had a top five dinner of my life. Pascal and Sabine out here in NJ. So amazing.
 

Douchebag K

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Yes, the ProPublica/Vanity Fair report I posted traced and examined the evidence developed by that Senate Report. We might bear in mind that the ProPublica/Vanity Fair report ended with this short statement:

Clarification, Oct. 28, 2022: This story has been updated to clarify that Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona, said two recent papers by him and his colleagues established that “a natural zoonotic origin is the only plausible scenario for the origin of the pandemic.”

This appears to be the July, 2022 paper with Worobey as lead author:


And the second paper mentioned, also from July, 2022:


any thoughts on the excess deaths phenomenon being recorded in many parts of the world ?
 

One Brow

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/ Interesting, large scale retrospective study showing no increase in the rate of Myocarditis or Pericarditis post Covid infection in unvaccinated unlike previously thought

Also:
Age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 0.96, 95% confidence interval [CI]; 0.93 to 1.00) and male sex (aHR 4.42; 95% CI, 1.64 to 11.96) were associated with myocarditis. Male sex (aHR 1.93; 95% CI 1.09 to 3.41) and peripheral vascular disease (aHR 4.20; 95% CI 1.50 to 11.72) were associated with pericarditis.
So, young males (as opposed to adults) were associated with myocarditis, just as with the vaccine? How do you feel that affects the risk ratios?
 


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