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fishonjazz said:
People thought that? Dummies. There will always be Republican presidents and there will always be Democratic presidents as long as the nation is as evenly split as it currently is (and has been) and we have a 2 party system.

I would like there to be no republican OR Democratic president. Would love to see an American president who wanted to represent and help all americans. Won't happen as long as there is so much vitriol and partisanship. Not enough incentive for change maybe. I don't know.

Politics sure do suck as they currently function in our collective every day life. They provide so much hate and negativity in the collective populations lives.

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Remember that opinion is generally from people who cannot fathom that other people would disagree with them, so there is no way any rational person would vote against their guy, hence there is no way their guy will ever lose and when they do it is a shock and awe situation that needs to be corrected for the good of the nation.
 
One Brow said:
No one has ramped up executive power more than Trump, and no one who listed to Trump's campaign should have been surprised by it.
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How is this quantified? To me it has seemed he is more bluster than action and really hasn't done that much. Most of his focus has been on undoing. Has he issued more executive orders than any other president? I didn't see him in that infographic.
 
LogGrad98 said:
How is this quantified? To me it has seemed he is more bluster than action and really hasn't done that much. Most of his focus has been on undoing. Has he issued more executive orders than any other president? I didn't see him in that infographic.
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I don't recall any other President being so disruptive regarding various inspector generals, and similar positions designed to check Presidential power.
 
One Brow said:
I don't recall any other President being so disruptive regarding various inspector generals, and similar positions designed to check Presidential power.
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I see that too, but I am not sure that qualifies as "no one has done it more". Recency bias a bit maybe?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I see that too, but I am not sure that qualifies as "no one has done it more". Recency bias a bit maybe?
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It's entirely possible. The only scandal I can recall that comes close is Nixon firing the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General because they refused to for the special prosecutor, before he found Bork to do the the job. I'm sure there were some things earlier on, but the Presidency overall had much less power then.
 
sirkickyass said:
Somehow it only gets crazier.
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Things can be viewed in all kinds of crazy ways.

I should like to somehow get you to see. You can hardly make a difference going on being duped and used by the powers that be.

While I am not sure exactly what the truth really is about other people, I would hope I could be free to act for myself, and that others would do so as well within their rights.

For sure, if we don't prosecute high officials who egregiously violate our laws, the only "rule of law" we can have is what philosophers refer to as "The Arrogance of Power."
 
Obama is famous for his legislative claim to power through his pen. He also did a significantly increased job of expanding bureaucracy with people he figured would do his program. While Trump has cut some regulations he does the emperoric swagger quite well. The reason "Establishment: sorts of both parties hate him is because if he is not reducing governance he is building a counter-Establishment they can't expect to run in his wake.
 
babe said:
Obama is famous for his legislative claim to power through his pen. He also did a significantly increased job of expanding bureaucracy with people he figured would do his program. While Trump has cut some regulations he does the emperoric swagger quite well. The reason "Establishment: sorts of both parties hate him is because if he is not reducing governance he is building a counter-Establishment they can't expect to run in his wake.
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Unless Congress gets some laws passed quickly, any position Trump has set a precedent for by firing someone is a position whose person can be fired again.
 
Archie Moses said:
To me, Obama was the most likable president. He was down to earth and relatable.
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I think if you were to meet any of these presidents at, say, a JFC get together, or shoot the breeze while watching a game, the most affable is certainly Clinton.
 
sirkickyass said:
Which "philosopher" writes about the "Arrogance of Power"

Google comes back with an ex US Senator who's got a pretty weird set of ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._William_Fulbright
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infection said:
I think if you were to meet any of these presidents at, say, a JFC get together, or shoot the breeze while watching a game, the most affable is certainly Clinton.
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I'd probably like any president if I had the chance to meet them. Trump is pushing it though. Dude is so crazy he's entertaining.
 
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