I hate rapists...

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There's no data there. The police officer is just giving his anecdotal impression. This undoubtedly happens some in Provo, as it undoubtedly happens some nation wide. But with 95% of campus rapes going unreported, assuming that stat is accurate, I don't think anything about this can be attributed to LDS culture.

"I'm a perversion to the good saints of my church," wrote the victim, who said she wished she were dead.

How about a quote from the victim that clearly states the LDS church as a reason for her silence?

This cop has served in Provo for 25 years, it's not like his opinion is just some baseless thing.

 

[leftyjace]

What about when they take the cucumber out of the fridge?

Hence my statement of qualification.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

How about a quote from the victim that clearly states the LDS church as a reason for her silence?

This cop has served in Provo for 25 years, it's not like his opinion is just some baseless thing.

He's a BYU cop. That's rent-a-cop status in Provo. I wouldn't trust his application of anything to city wide projections.

 

[One Brow]

One Brow - I surrender. I cannot spin and twist with the ease and experience you exhibit.

I would hate to think there would be a legitimate point to looking at the way we raise women, and the shamefulness we attach to their sexuality. Spinning and twisting is a much better way to see this.

 

[One Brow]

I had this nice cleverly organized response, but decided not to pull the trigger on it, it was too mean for me to actually hit the post button.
I'm walking way. Carry on with your agenda.

Supporters of the patriarchy don't really want to address their privilege. Blaiming the opponent and walking away are two common defenses.

 

[One Brow]

He was just getting started with that pretending to be innocent post.

Actually, it was a legitimate attempt to start a discussion about the degree to which the culture of the USA makes it even more difficult for rape victims, increasing their victimization, and how that helps serial rapists. Nothing "innocent" about it.

In some ways he reminds me of Salty, and we should know by now that Salty will never, ever, ever admit he was wrong on even a single point.

On the other hand, I do acknowledge errors and mistakes, from time to time.

I think Brow is going to be bothered with your post because it did not address the issue, it was just tagging people. Shame on you.

Siromar did not mention any specific person, and said discussing the issue was more important. I think the correct amount of shame should be visited on Siromar for that.

 

[One Brow]

I hate them too. Unless they're hot females. Then they can force me to have heterosexual intercourse with them all they want.

Because raping a male is joke, and not traumatic for men. After all, men are just sex beasts, and women need to adjust their behavior for men who can't control themselves.

 

[One Brow]

If he had an argument, perhaps a refutation would be appropriate. But here he has just posted crap with no real evidence.

So, colton, if we posted testimonies of rape victims on how they were shamed, statistics on rape not being taken seriously, etc., then you might consider that certain cultures make reporting rape more difficult, but for now you consider that hypothesis so unlikely that it is crap?

I can certainly help you find that evidence, if you are really not aware of it and truly interested.

 

[One Brow]

Let's be very clear: OneBrow was not talking about patriarchal societies in general. He was talking about the LDS society in specific.

I was discussing the LDS sub-culture as an example of the more highly patriarchal culture. My intent was more general than specific.

After all, the messenger does matter more than the message.

 

[One Brow]

Attributing the non-reporting of these rapes to LDS culture is stupid. You are letting your biases rule your judgment.

If I were referring to the religious beliefs of the LDS culture, I would agree that would be stupid.

 

[colton]

So, colton, if we posted testimonies of rape victims on how they were shamed, statistics on rape not being taken seriously, etc., then you might consider that certain cultures make reporting rape more difficult, but for now you consider that hypothesis so unlikely that it is crap?

Undoubtedly that is true. It was your assertion that LDS women in specific make good rape targets that I was objecting to.

 

[One Brow]

Undoubtedly that is true. It was your assertion that LDS women in specific make good rape targets that I was objecting to.

Care to test your hypothesis?

Ask me if this is a problem within the atheist subculture. Compare my response to your expected response.

Alternatively, just keep make assumptions and walk away. It's not like your a science geek or anything, right?