A bunch of posts later, no. No we can't. But I'll try. Let's lock that ******* up and throw away the key!
A bunch of posts later, no. No we can't. But I'll try. Let's lock that ******* up and throw away the key!
If you always miss the importance of desciptive adjectives, you should indeed be ashamed of yourself.
Glad to see this conversation is still about me. I would hate for it to be about something minor like culture and it's impact on women reporting rape.
If you always forget the nouns you type you will always have people missing the importance of your desc(r)iptive adjectives. I will be ashamed right after you, lead the way sir.
A patriarchal religion is still a religion.
I was talking about religion, why are you still talking about yourself? Get over yourself already.
True, but non-patriarchal religions, which tends to shame less regarding women's sex drive, also do much less discourage rape reports.
I am over myself, and I'll save talking about religion for threads whose topic is religion.
I think he not-so-secretly likes the conversation being about him.
True, but non-patriarchal religions, which tends to shame less regarding women's sex drive, also do much less discourage rape reports.
I am over myself, and I'll save talking about religion for threads whose topic is religion.
Says the guy who started the religion talk. um... okay.
Where do you get your information about non-patriarchal religions and patriarchal religions shame rates?
I'm just curious, I would like to know before I take it as fact.
Strictly anecdotal, reading and listening to, for example, Wiccans vs. Baptists on the subjects.
PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
Hold up!
Does it say somewhere that the women didn't report the rapes?
I thought he got away with it the first time because it was her word against his, and it couldn't be proved it was not consensual.
Does it say somewhere that the women didn't report the rapes?
I thought he got away with it the first time because it was her word against his, and it couldn't be proved it was not consensual.
PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
There was no problem with lack of reporting, so One Brow's stupid statement about LDS/religious women not reporting was completely wrong in regards to this case.
~from OP link
I think we can all agree that there's too much victim blaming in rape cases generally, regardless of the cultural or religious background of the victim.
I think Brow is reaching here though. Brow's statement at it's core is essentially: "women who are more likely to be shamed are less likely to report the rape." I don't think anyone could seriously dispute that claim.
I'm not certain he's got the goods that the LDS church is more likely to be shame the victim though. I think there's another argument to be made that patriarchal structures, especially those that view women as some kind of special chattel, may not perceive that women have enough agency when in the presence of respected men or may hold the man more responsible because of his privileged status. In the absence of some hard stats I'm uninclined to draw conclusions.
As an aside, I always wonder how the percentage of crimes that aren't reported is determined. By definition they are unseen data points.
Given the statistics I'd be stunned if there aren't victims that didn't report. I'd be further surprised if we didn't see some identified in the weeks and months ahead. This happens in virtually every serial rape case where once the dam bursts a whole flood of victims comes forward. We just saw this happen with Sandusky.
Isn't it hilarious when someone makes light of rape victims in a conversation about a rapist? Gee, I sure missed this guy. Especially the part when he starts creeping on every female and alleged female on the board again.
I think Brow is reaching here though. Brow's statement at it's core is essentially: "women who are more likely to be shamed are less likely to report the rape." I don't think anyone could seriously dispute that claim.
I'm not certain he's got the goods that the LDS church is more likely to be shame the victim though. I think there's another argument to be made that patriarchal structures, especially those that view women as some kind of special chattel, may not perceive that women have enough agency when in the presence of respected men or may hold the man more responsible because of his privileged status. In the absence of some hard stats I'm uninclined to draw conclusions.
As an aside, I always wonder how the percentage of crimes that aren't reported is determined. By definition they are unseen data points.
Given the statistics I'd be stunned if there aren't victims that didn't report. I'd be further surprised if we didn't see some identified in the weeks and months ahead. This happens in virtually every serial rape case where once the dam bursts a whole flood of victims comes forward. We just saw this happen with Sandusky.
Isn't it hilarious when someone makes light of rape victims in a conversation about a rapist? Gee, I sure missed this guy. Especially the part when he starts creeping on every female and alleged female on the board again.
leftyjace
Well-Known Member
Still selectively uptight, I see. And don't be scared, kicky... now matter how much more effeminate you get, I will not creep on you. Yet.
Sorry dude. Your "joke" is offensive and not at all funny.
I'm sure you'd start getting "selectively uptight" if people started making jokes about your past health history.
Context is a lot.
You left and the position of "well acknowledged board pervert" has been long since filled by Wes Mantooth. You two will have to fight this one out amongst yourselves.