John Stockton Claims Medicine is Bad

[Gameface]

LOL, that is not peer reviewed studies but just anecdotal claims.
As of 2021 many thousands of papers had been published on the efficacy of acupuncture for the treatment of various adult health conditions, but there was no robust evidence it was beneficial for anything, other than evidence for shoulder pain and fibromyalgia - and none of the evidence that it would be superior to traditional medicine. For Science-Based Medicine, Steven Novella wrote that the overall pattern of evidence was reminiscent of that for homeopathy, compatible with the hypothesis that most, if not all, benefits were due to the placebo effect, and strongly suggestive that acupuncture had no beneficial therapeutic effects at all.
Of course all acupuncture practicing quacks will tell you how effective it is - yet that is how placebo works! Same like homeopathy - complete quackery with zero effect yet millions of dollars earned from naive people believing in that nonsense.

I think this is all well and good until someone is deceived into picking homeopathic, new age or "natural" treatments over proven medical treatments in a life or death situation. I think a meaningful portion of COVID deaths, especially ones that happened after vaccines became available, were due to people (some of them are in this thread) actively, energetically, passionately, and emphatically spreading easily provable misinformation about the disease and the vaccine.

It's funny in a very not funny way, but we're not hearing about 5G anymore, we're not hearing about microchips anymore, we're not hearing about infertility anymore, we're not hearing about mass extinction of those vaccinated anymore... because it is now just too ****ing obvious how much ******** all that was. I first got vaccinate more than two years ago. Billions of people have been vaccinated against COVID, many of us have had a booster or two. None of the fear mongering talking points came to fruition, but the same people who spread that BS are still desperately looking for negatives so that they can still say, even after their primary, secondary and tertiary arguments have gone down in flames, that they were ultimately right about the vaccine. How is it that they just knew the vaccine was bad (despite all their reasons why it is bad eventually failing)? Well, they just knew. They just posses this inherent ability to see the unseeable, to know the unknowable, to understand the incomprehensible. They are just the best of us, standing on the hill and shouting at us about how stupid we are for just following the so-called experts opinions when what we should do is place our faith in them and their intuition, because although they may not have a degree in anything or specialized knowledge or study of the relevant subject matter, they just know what is true and what is not true based on their amazing super human abilities.

The people speaking out against the COVID vaccine are killers... murderers in my opinion. Including the people in this thread I have on ignore. They are responsible for death and suffering that didn't need to happen. They are bad people, even if they believe what they are saying. I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if they faced the consequences of being murderers.

 

[Gameface]

Abusing chemicals obviously isn’t beneficial.

You can also abuse your diet, upsetting hormone balances, beneficial gut bacteria leading to the gateway of illnesses.

Exercise isn’t just important for muscle loss prevention, and functionality.

I would say the best benefit is often overlooked. Your lymphatic (immune) system.
Lymphatic fluid doesn’t circulate on its own.
The lymphatic system DEPENDS on muscle contractions and your heart rate to help the fluid flow to the capillaries and lymph nodes. (These cleanse the impurities out of your system)

When you are born you have anywhere between 400-1,000 lymph nodes with over 1/2 of them located in you abdomen.

The fewest amount of lymph nodes are in the legs. If you’ve had any sort of surgery, they could have even removed some of your lymph nodes.

Since learning this, I’ve incorporated seated leg-press into my routine twice over with variations. (Leg contractions, elevated feet for increased lymphatic fluid return)

Obviously anything involving legs is going to help you feel great. Running, cycling, swimming,

I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.

 

[SteakNEggs]

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The people speaking out against the COVID vaccine are killers... murderers in my opinion. Including the people in this thread I have on ignore. They are responsible for death and suffering that didn't need to happen. They are bad people, even if they believe what they are saying. I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if they faced the consequences of being murderers.

Does this include the black community and the millions of unvaccinated illegal immigrants who were amongst the least and most reluctant to get vaccinated?

 

[Gameface]

Does this include the black community and the millions of unvaccinated illegal immigrants who were amongst the least vaccinated?

Not taking the vaccine is one thing.

Being a propagandist's junior assistant by passing on all the BS like you know what you're talking about (when YOU, you specifically, don't) is deadly. Yeah. I think you're a bad person who deserves the same punishment a convicted murderer would receive. That's what I think of you. I think that you're no better than a murderer. Let me rephrase, I think that you ARE a murderer.

If there was an announcement on jazzfanz that you died a horrible painful death... I would not be sad.

That is what I think of you.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Not taking the vaccine is one thing.

Being a propagandist's junior assistant by passing on all the BS like you know what you're talking about (when YOU, you specifically, don't) is deadly. Yeah. I think you're a bad person who deserves the same punishment a convicted murderer would receive. That's what I think of you. I think that you're no better than a murderer. Let me rephrase, I think that you ARE a murderer.

If there was an announcement on jazzfanz that you died a horrible painful death... I would not be sad.

That is what I think of you.

Well.. I wish you the very best. I know we don't see eye to eye and have had our battles but I don't wish an ounce of bad you or your family. That's the difference between you and I.

I'm fully and gladly vaccinated btw. Im just anti-fascist force people to do things against their will like you. That's what terrifies people the most. Not the vaccine... The hatred in people's hearts towards people who dont conform to your fascist bull s*. Crazy thing is... I never got the virus until 3 weeks after my 2nd vaccine. That is the honest to God truth.

That's 2 post of people wishing death on me today. How tolerant.

 

[Jaymz]

I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.

True everything is chemicals

Well… I mean… some peoples body get attuned to their diet. Or I would assume micro biome. I’ve heard of people who quit drinking at the age of 75 and that’s what killed them. I don’t know the science on that but some part of me wants to think it’s true.

Doctors and nurse practitioners study the G.I. tract in great detail, that wasn’t part of my education.

 

[LogGrad98]

From what I have seen (and saying it works or doesn't is a vast oversimplification) it appears that there are some completely un-understood benefits to acupuncture for treating some conditions, however, I haven't seen any real studies that compare it to traditional Western medicine. It seem to be good for chronic pain more than anything else, especially the kinds that the Drs also can't find a specific cause for, at least from a quick glance at these results.

Acupuncture: Effectiveness and Safety

Information about acupuncture, including its safety and effectiveness in treating pain and other conditions.

www.nccih.nih.gov

Mostly the placebo effect really.

 

[Jaymz]

Mostly the placebo effect really.

It’s interesting you bring this up.
I was giving an Uber ride to a hypnotist and telling him how I plan on opening my practice.

He suggested that I study a little bit of hypnotism and apply it to my practice because “everyone is open to a little suggestion”

Which brings me to think that a lot of the therapy is placebo driven.
However, there are already so many health benefits to massage that placebo is really at the tail end of my focus.

 

[LogGrad98]

I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.

Even jam has chemicals!

 

[JazzMan4Life]

Did you know that the black community is the most anti-vax and least vax'd community?

And about MAGA...While being a spiteful unifier you should look into Trump trying to get it so pharmacy had to put actual cost on medicine and him legalizing generic drugs that your type fought. Hell Biden destroyed Trumps cheap insulin on his first day in office.

Does this include the black community and the millions of unvaccinated illegal immigrants who were amongst the least and most reluctant to get vaccinated?

In a state where the vast majority is white you've brought up "the black community" multiple times. Why?

 

[JazzMan4Life]

Did you know that the black community is the most anti-vax and least vax'd community?

And about MAGA...While being a spiteful unifier you should look into Trump trying to get it so pharmacy had to put actual cost on medicine and him legalizing generic drugs that your type fought. Hell Biden destroyed Trumps cheap insulin on his first day in office.

I'd like to know your thoughts on this article.

Misleading claims cite Biden for insulin price increases

Misleading. The president doesn’t set the price of drugs. The Biden administration repealed a narrow, Trump-era regulation that sought to lower the cost of insulin at federally funded health centers.

apnews.com

 

[SteakNEggs]

I'd like to know your thoughts on this article.

Misleading claims cite Biden for insulin price increases

Misleading. The president doesn’t set the price of drugs. The Biden administration repealed a narrow, Trump-era regulation that sought to lower the cost of insulin at federally funded health centers.

apnews.com

What I said is true. Trump had executive orders signed and Biden squashed them. The point being Trump had cheap insulin and EpiPens in place. He was also making cheap generic drugs a possibility and also attacking big pharma to have to put the actual cost in its drugs showing how much profit these evil "life saving" companies people like Thriller are pushing make. Hell Pfizer loves Gameface and Thriller. The same company charging 300%-2000% price markup for live saving drugs. If you don't Pfizer you should be murdered according to Gameface.

View: https://youtu.be/16acPP8Rcjg

In a state where the vast majority is white you've brought up "the black community" multiple times. Why?

Because it's idiotic for someone to blame just one entity like hateful Thriller does. The point of bringing others into this is simple...There are many reasons why people were anti-vax whether it be religion, certain groups being the victim of forced medicine (African Americans/natives), nationality, or just plain distrust. Like I said a vast majority of illegal migrants were also against the vax for the same reason as the people like Gameface want murdered or thrown in jail. Thriller and Gameface just want to make this into sheer hate against one particular group, when there are legit reasons for people of all backgrounds to question the vaccine. There's are legit reasons people were antivax, especially in the African American community understandably that's my point.

I mean you have Gameface literally calling me a murderer and wishing death on me and your concern is me? Not one poster here has said what a terrible thing that is. Sheer hate like this is a huge reason people were hesitant to get the vaccine. These are some scary humans... Most people are not antivax. Most people were terrified of the evil humans demonizing others for not doing something they don't trust(especially in the African American community), something against their religion, or something than many like myself waited until FDA approval and felt comfortable.

Now people want others murdered or thrown in jail for murder because the didn't trust a year old vaccine? I mean that's scary **** to me. And thing is people, particularly in this forum, don't see anything wrong with that. Wishing death on people is acceptable... Posters actually found wishing death on me funny...(not you btw, thanks)Who's really the bad guy? I don't wish death or harm on anyone. I mean these guys hate John Stockton with a passion for saying he'd rather do natural methods than take drugs. What a childish thing to hate someone for. Because he feels that physical therapy and taking care of oneself is better than taking ibuprofen.

More people would've trusted the vax if it weren't for the sheer meanness, vileness and hateful display by a particular group and some that we see on this very board. They are more to blame than I am imo.