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John Stockton Claims Medicine is Bad

Gameface said:
Not taking the vaccine is one thing.

Being a propagandist's junior assistant by passing on all the BS like you know what you're talking about (when YOU, you specifically, don't) is deadly. Yeah. I think you're a bad person who deserves the same punishment a convicted murderer would receive. That's what I think of you. I think that you're no better than a murderer. Let me rephrase, I think that you ARE a murderer.

If there was an announcement on jazzfanz that you died a horrible painful death... I would not be sad.

That is what I think of you.
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Well.. I wish you the very best. I know we don't see eye to eye and have had our battles but I don't wish an ounce of bad you or your family. That's the difference between you and I.

I'm fully and gladly vaccinated btw. Im just anti-fascist force people to do things against their will like you. That's what terrifies people the most. Not the vaccine... The hatred in people's hearts towards people who dont conform to your fascist bull s*. Crazy thing is... I never got the virus until 3 weeks after my 2nd vaccine. That is the honest to God truth.

That's 2 post of people wishing death on me today. How tolerant.
 
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Gameface said:
I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.
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True everything is chemicals

Well… I mean… some peoples body get attuned to their diet. Or I would assume micro biome. I’ve heard of people who quit drinking at the age of 75 and that’s what killed them. I don’t know the science on that but some part of me wants to think it’s true.

Doctors and nurse practitioners study the G.I. tract in great detail, that wasn’t part of my education.
 
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gandalfe said:
From what I have seen (and saying it works or doesn't is a vast oversimplification) it appears that there are some completely un-understood benefits to acupuncture for treating some conditions, however, I haven't seen any real studies that compare it to traditional Western medicine. It seem to be good for chronic pain more than anything else, especially the kinds that the Drs also can't find a specific cause for, at least from a quick glance at these results.

www.nccih.nih.gov

Acupuncture: Effectiveness and Safety

Information about acupuncture, including its safety and effectiveness in treating pain and other conditions.
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Mostly the placebo effect really.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Mostly the placebo effect really.
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It’s interesting you bring this up.
I was giving an Uber ride to a hypnotist and telling him how I plan on opening my practice.

He suggested that I study a little bit of hypnotism and apply it to my practice because “everyone is open to a little suggestion”

Which brings me to think that a lot of the therapy is placebo driven.
However, there are already so many health benefits to massage that placebo is really at the tail end of my focus.
 
Gameface said:
I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.
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Even jam has chemicals!
 
SteakNEggs said:
Did you know that the black community is the most anti-vax and least vax'd community?

And about MAGA...While being a spiteful unifier you should look into Trump trying to get it so pharmacy had to put actual cost on medicine and him legalizing generic drugs that your type fought. Hell Biden destroyed Trumps cheap insulin on his first day in office.
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SteakNEggs said:
Does this include the black community and the millions of unvaccinated illegal immigrants who were amongst the least and most reluctant to get vaccinated?
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In a state where the vast majority is white you've brought up "the black community" multiple times. Why?
 
SteakNEggs said:
Did you know that the black community is the most anti-vax and least vax'd community?

And about MAGA...While being a spiteful unifier you should look into Trump trying to get it so pharmacy had to put actual cost on medicine and him legalizing generic drugs that your type fought. Hell Biden destroyed Trumps cheap insulin on his first day in office.
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I'd like to know your thoughts on this article.
apnews.com

Misleading claims cite Biden for insulin price increases

Biden called for capping the cost of insulin during his State of the Union address. Referring to a 13-year-old with diabetes who was present for the remarks, Biden said: “For Joshua, and for the 200,000 other young people with Type 1 diabetes, let’s cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month so everyone
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JazzMan4Life said:
I'd like to know your thoughts on this article.
apnews.com

Misleading claims cite Biden for insulin price increases

Biden called for capping the cost of insulin during his State of the Union address. Referring to a 13-year-old with diabetes who was present for the remarks, Biden said: “For Joshua, and for the 200,000 other young people with Type 1 diabetes, let’s cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month so everyone
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What I said is true. Trump had executive orders signed and Biden squashed them. The point being Trump had cheap insulin and EpiPens in place. He was also making cheap generic drugs a possibility and also attacking big pharma to have to put the actual cost in its drugs showing how much profit these evil "life saving" companies people like Thriller are pushing make. Hell Pfizer loves Gameface and Thriller. The same company charging 300%-2000% price markup for live saving drugs. If you don't Pfizer you should be murdered according to Gameface.

View: https://youtu.be/16acPP8Rcjg

JazzMan4Life said:
In a state where the vast majority is white you've brought up "the black community" multiple times. Why?
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Because it's idiotic for someone to blame just one entity like hateful Thriller does. The point of bringing others into this is simple...There are many reasons why people were anti-vax whether it be religion, certain groups being the victim of forced medicine (African Americans/natives), nationality, or just plain distrust. Like I said a vast majority of illegal migrants were also against the vax for the same reason as the people like Gameface want murdered or thrown in jail. Thriller and Gameface just want to make this into sheer hate against one particular group, when there are legit reasons for people of all backgrounds to question the vaccine. There's are legit reasons people were antivax, especially in the African American community understandably that's my point.

I mean you have Gameface literally calling me a murderer and wishing death on me and your concern is me? Not one poster here has said what a terrible thing that is. Sheer hate like this is a huge reason people were hesitant to get the vaccine. These are some scary humans... Most people are not antivax. Most people were terrified of the evil humans demonizing others for not doing something they don't trust(especially in the African American community), something against their religion, or something than many like myself waited until FDA approval and felt comfortable.

Now people want others murdered or thrown in jail for murder because the didn't trust a year old vaccine? I mean that's scary **** to me. And thing is people, particularly in this forum, don't see anything wrong with that. Wishing death on people is acceptable... Posters actually found wishing death on me funny...(not you btw, thanks)Who's really the bad guy? I don't wish death or harm on anyone. I mean these guys hate John Stockton with a passion for saying he'd rather do natural methods than take drugs. What a childish thing to hate someone for. Because he feels that physical therapy and taking care of oneself is better than taking ibuprofen.

More people would've trusted the vax if it weren't for the sheer meanness, vileness and hateful display by a particular group and some that we see on this very board. They are more to blame than I am imo.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
What I said is true. Trump had executive orders signed and Biden squashed them. The point being Trump had cheap insulin and EpiPens in place. He was also making cheap generic drugs a possibility and also attacking big pharma to have to put the actual cost in its drugs showing how much profit these evil "life saving" companies people like Thriller are pushing. Hell Pfizer loves Gameface and Thriller. The same company charging 300%-2000% price markup for live saving drugs. If you don't Pfizer you should be murdered according to Gameface.

View: https://youtu.be/16acPP8Rcjg


Because it's idiotic for someone to blame just one entity like hateful Thriller does. The point of bringing others into this is simple...There are many reasons why people were anti-vax whether it be religion, certain groups being the victim of forced medicine (African Americans/natives), nationality, or just plain distrust. Like I said a vast majority of illegal migrants were also against the vax for the sane reason as the people like Gameface want murdered or thrown in jail. Thriller and Gameface just want to make this into sheer hate against one particular group, when there are legit reasons for people of all backgrounds to question the vaccine. There's are legit reasons people were antivax, especially in the African American community understandably that's my point.

I mean you have Gameface literally calling me a murderer and wishing death on me and your concern is me? Not one poster here has said what a terrible thing that is. Sheer hate like this is a huge reason people were hesitant to get the vaccine. These are some scary humans... Most people are not antivax. Most people were terrified of the evil humans demonizing others for not doing something they don't trust(especially in the African American community), something against their religion, or something than many like myself waited until FDA approval and felt comfortable.

Now people want others murdered or thrown in jail for murder because the didn't trust a year old vaccine? I mean that's scary **** to me. And thing is people, particularly in this forum, don't see anything wrong with that. Wishing death on people is acceptable... Posters actually found wishing death on me funny...(not you btw, thanks)Who's really the bad guy? I don't wish death or harm on anyone. I mean these guys hate John Stockton with a passion for saying he'd rather do natural methods than take drugs. What a childish thing to hate someone for. Because he feels that physical therapy and taking care of oneself is better than taking ibuprofen.

More people would've trusted the vax if it weren't for the sheer meanness, vileness and hateful displayed by a particular group and some that we see on this very board. They are more to blame than I am imo.
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Just for the record, It’s wrong they are wishing any harm on you.
However, I don’t think people take them too seriously as people get passionate defending their perception.

I would like to take this opportunity to say do appreciate your insight, and I tend to agree with most things I’ve read from you.

I have a bit of a zealous nature toward holistic health. Too many companies have made money off me with various fads for fitness and well-being.
I believe it’s important to spread awareness of these type of things
 
Jaymz said:
Oooooo. Acupuncture is actually.



I disagree with this statement.

Let me do some acupressure on you. (No needles bro) and feel your body change.
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well you can disagree that Earth is round too. Does not make it scientific fact. There is no scientific evidence of "body meridians" Qi points" " life force energy" and other pseudoscience acupuncture is based on. Placebo effect is the only valid explanation.
 
SteakNEggs said:
Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe.
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This is an opinion piece, not a study.

The pharmaceutical industry doesn't deserve a defense, but drugs save many more lives than they cost.
 
SteakNEggs said:
What I said is true. Trump had executive orders signed and Biden squashed them. The point being Trump had cheap insulin and EpiPens in place. He was also making cheap generic drugs a possibility and also attacking big pharma to have to put the actual cost in its drugs showing how much profit these evil "life saving" companies people like Thriller are pushing make. Hell Pfizer loves Gameface and Thriller. The same company charging 300%-2000% price markup for live saving drugs. If you don't Pfizer you should be murdered according to Gameface.

View: https://youtu.be/16acPP8Rcjg


Because it's idiotic for someone to blame just one entity like hateful Thriller does. The point of bringing others into this is simple...There are many reasons why people were anti-vax whether it be religion, certain groups being the victim of forced medicine (African Americans/natives), nationality, or just plain distrust. Like I said a vast majority of illegal migrants were also against the vax for the same reason as the people like Gameface want murdered or thrown in jail. Thriller and Gameface just want to make this into sheer hate against one particular group, when there are legit reasons for people of all backgrounds to question the vaccine. There's are legit reasons people were antivax, especially in the African American community understandably that's my point.

I mean you have Gameface literally calling me a murderer and wishing death on me and your concern is me? Not one poster here has said what a terrible thing that is. Sheer hate like this is a huge reason people were hesitant to get the vaccine. These are some scary humans... Most people are not antivax. Most people were terrified of the evil humans demonizing others for not doing something they don't trust(especially in the African American community), something against their religion, or something than many like myself waited until FDA approval and felt comfortable.

Now people want others murdered or thrown in jail for murder because the didn't trust a year old vaccine? I mean that's scary **** to me. And thing is people, particularly in this forum, don't see anything wrong with that. Wishing death on people is acceptable... Posters actually found wishing death on me funny...(not you btw, thanks)Who's really the bad guy? I don't wish death or harm on anyone. I mean these guys hate John Stockton with a passion for saying he'd rather do natural methods than take drugs. What a childish thing to hate someone for. Because he feels that physical therapy and taking care of oneself is better than taking ibuprofen.

More people would've trusted the vax if it weren't for the sheer meanness, vileness and hateful display by a particular group and some that we see on this very board. They are more to blame than I am imo.
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Thanks for your reply. Your video gave a me a better understanding of the situation.
As I understand it Trump's solution would have set precedents that would not be ideal for most Americans.

With your second point you seem focused on @Gameface and @The Thriller more than my question; which is understandable. I enjoy Gameface's comments and his contributions to this site but I did put in my first report because I think the things he said were over the line.
 
JazzMan4Life said:
Thanks for your reply. Your video gave a me a better understanding of the situation.
As I understand it Trump's solution would have set precedents that would not be ideal for most Americans.

With your second point you seem focused on @Gameface and @The Thriller more than my question; which is understandable. I enjoy Gameface's comments and his contributions to this site but I did put in my first report because I think the things he said were over the line.
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Yeah my bad on that second part. I kind of hijacked the conversation. I did somewhat answer though. I brought up the African American community because they are the least vaxed community. They are as antivax(vax-hesitant) and to me that's entirely understandable as the government hasn't always had their best interest in mind. But with that said I also think most other people who were antivax have legit concerns. Some are religion, As I said pzifer is a company that makes billions of dollars off of others suffering and have hijacked drug prices to astronomical amounts. I personally don't think they have our best interest in mind though they also do help many people. Just as ridiculous cost.

And not to give them the murderous lust they desire but as I said I also think the way that many pushed and forced and bullied others was a massive deterrent. People forcing others to take a vaccine or lose their jobs, or not be able to go to church, or flat out put them in an internment camp(Gameface) made some question the motives.

Off this topic but still on as far a chemicals... at the end of the day we now know that natural immunity was highly effective as well. Now the vaccine was very useful in keeping the severity down but natural immunity was extremely effective at actual immunity. Hell how many times did Biden and his office get infected despite multiple boosters? Posters can blame unvaccinated all they want but the vaccinated spread the virus just as much. Me being vaccinated could've spread the virus just as much as an unvaccinated person.

Thing is... Being vaccinated I have no hate or content towards others as I was protected. It seems certain people admit that the vaccine wasn't all that useful if millions of vaccinated were being murdered as uneducatedly claimed... Doesn't make any sense but as I said they have an agenda.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
Posters can blame unvaccinated all they want but the vaccinated spread the virus just as much. Me being vaccinated could've spread the virus just as much as an unvaccinated person.
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Vaccination reduces the viral load a person experiences. When that person has less of the virus, they will spread less of the virus. You being vaccinated means you would spread less of the virus than if you were unvaccinated.

SteakNEggs said:
It seems certain people admit that the vaccine wasn't all that useful if millions of vaccinated were being murdered as uneducatedly claimed... Doesn't make any sense but as I said they have an agenda.
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Vaccination involves risk reduction (last I heard, by a factor of ten or so).
 
Gameface said:
I abuse the **** out of several chemicals every day.

I won't go even a minute in a normal day without ingesting several liters of O2

I drink like a sailor on shore leave, 8oz here, 20oz there, sometimes even more than 32oz in a sitting of my favorite chemical, H20.

I like protein, I like calcium, I like beta carotene, **** man, there are so many chemicals I'm hardcore into, you might even say addicted to, I can't even name them all.

Yum yum yum, give me chemicals.

I basically don't eat anything unless it contains chemicals. I refuse. Either it has chemicals or it can take a ****ing hike because chemicals are my jam.
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A man made a genius ingredient label for popular fruits and revealed why the term 'chemical-free' is meaningless

The idea that there's a difference between "natural" chemicals — like those in fruits and vegetables — and the synthetic version is a common misconception.
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