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CHINA vs the NBA.

aussietin said:
Basically, Hong Kong was British colony returned to China in 1997. During the time as a colony, Hong Kong operated under British law. When it came time to be returned to China, HKers obviously didn't want to just become part of China. So a deal was made operate under a 'one country, two systems' method going forward. Hong Kong has a mini constitution that details the powers the rights people enjoy under Hong Kong, and the degree of interference China can have with Hong Kong. So our current system has separation of powers (administrative, judicial, and legislative branches), unlike China. Chinese national laws do not apply to us because we have our own legal system. We also have our own government (which answers to China), and no censorship on the internet etc.

Within the mini constitution, there is a provision that says things would remain relatively unchanged for 50 years (until 2047). However, a lot of Hong Kong people believe that China is starting to exert more and more power on Hong Kong, in breach of the promise made prior to the handover.

The current fiasco comes from a now-withdrawn extradition bill that would have meant China can extradite people from, despite no extradition treaty being made with them. People were afraid of China claiming people committed crimes then extraditing them to the lawless and corrupt China, so over 1 million people took the streets multiple times to protest (total population of HK around 7+ million). The dumbass leader of Hong Kong (called the Chief Executive) refused to withdraw the bill for a long *** time, and made people really pissed off, and this ended up bringing up a lot more deep rooted anger people had against the government, leading to today.

Source: me, from Hong Kong
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Doesn't HK vote for the Chief Executive but only those approved by China can run? If this is correct, was this always the rule or did it change at some point?
 
Is it me or is it weird the NBA is distancing themselves from being political? I mean, isn't what's going on in Hong Kong wrong?


Gotta make dat money doe.
 
checkbookdoc said:
Doesn't HK vote for the Chief Executive but only those approved by China can run? If this is correct, was this always the rule or did it change at some point?
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no, thats something that was proposed, but was voted down at the legislative council because its a bs attempt to look like democracy when its not at all.

right now, i think its called the election council (?) that consists of like 1200 people, with representatives from different industries vote for the chief executive.
 
checkbookdoc said:
I am disappointed that Locke deleted his twitter comments. He must have deleted them because of 1) pressure from the Jazz, and 2) concern about being blacklisted from other podcasts/media. In other words, he was worried about money. I don't blame Locke, he has a family to take care of and a job he loves. It does sour me on his past (and any future) political/social takes, although he does seem to try and avoid them for the most part.

I wish the Jazz would just come out and say, we support human rights everywhere and for that reason stand with the HK protestors. It might piss off DM (I think he is the only player with much to lose due to the shoe contract), but it would endear them to lots of other people. Also, if the Jazz are serious about fighting the reputation of being racist, why not be the first (and maybe only) team to take the obvious stance that 80% of NBA fans agree with?
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We should start a #utahjazzstandswithhongkong tag on Twitter and see if we can get it going.
 
It's not only NBA. FIFA, Olympics comitee and the others maintain always that sport should not be mixed with politics, that it's above it, should get people together etc. It's very noble point of view which allows you to sell your product everywhere.
 
Archie Moses said:
We should start a #utahjazzstandswithhongkong tag on Twitter and see if we can get it going.
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I personally would rather sports and politics be separate, so maybe this will be a good step in that direction.

There has been a vibe over the last few years that a lot of players/executives/media members that were critical of Michael Jordan not being more politically active (republicans buy sneakers too). I wonder if they feel differently now.
 
Are there any public figures - who more important money wise to NBA - chinese fans or US based fans? Even if all the arenas are sold out (at the current list prices), wouldn't the huge chinese shopping power still overcome it? Technically, if China wants, they might even somewhat "occupy" NBA - assuming that Chinese market (and money) is much bigger compared to the income provided directly or indirectly by US citizens. I wonder, how many offers have the Jazz owners received from China?
 
That whole situation is actually ridiculous at so many levels: GM of Rockets who tweets something like that knowing how big interests his team and the whole league has in China, China reacting to his tweet by cursing whole Rockets, Harden apologising on the account of his manager, NBA who tries to apologise and protect freedom of speech at the same time, comentators suddenly exposing hypocrisy of NBA like it's only now that China did something bad but there was nothing wrong with it hosting Olympics and other events before.
 
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