John Stockton Claims Medicine is Bad

[SteakNEggs]

That is the problem with you - you are referring to lack of ankle sprains of one athlete like some kind of scientific fact or proof to your nonsense statement. That is not how science works.

Im not a medical professional is....

 

[MVP]

That's what John is saying......... That the drugs did nothing but hide the pain. Things like physical therapy, acupuncture, eating right, and taking care of yourself is far more critical then masking injuries with chemicals. You all are taking his words and twisting them to hate.

Physical and athletic therapy is based on science. Acupuncture is not. I am not twisting his words, just stating obvious. If you wana suffer through pain and use just icing and wait for it to heal - completely fine with me. But some people may have lower pain tolerance and having a dose of ibuprophen ( which not only reduces pain but as well acts as antiinflammatory ) will reduce their suffering and speed up recovery. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[MVP]

Im not a medical professional

Of course you are not. Otherwise you would not be promoting pseudoscience and quackery.

 

[Jaymz]

It’s not that medicine doesn’t work.
It works for its intended purpose.

Are there better, more holistic approaches that prevent repeated injuries?

I thinks so.


I had an ac joint dislocation from a basketball injury. I was told surgery. But I was poor af and read that you could naturally heal but would take longer.

I used kinetic tape to help support and stabilize my shoulder. I healed to full functionality and range of motion.

In this case, I’m glad I skipped “western medicine”

 

[Deleted member 365]

Baahhhh!

Chemicals!

Be afraid!

 

[SteakNEggs]

Physical and athletic therapy is based on science. Acupuncture is not. I

Which he is talking about and credits to his long standing career. He literally says physical therapy and taking care of oneself is key... Not masking an injury with chemicals. That is part of his point you do not grasp. He's saying that advil and chemicals just hide the injury and that leads to worse injuries. Players play hurt thinking that chemicals are the cure. Did you even watch the actual video or just thrillers idiotic propaganda video?

 

[MVP]

Which he is talking about and credits to his long standing career. He literally says physical therapy and taking care of oneself is key... Not masking an injury with chemicals. That is part of his point you do not grasp. He's saying that advil and chemicals just hide the injury and that leads to worse injuries. Did you even watch the actual video or just thrillers propaganda video?

where did I say anything negative about physiotherapy? I am just dismissing your claim that acupuncture is far superior than traditional medicine.

 

[SteakNEggs]

where did I say anything negative about physiotherapy? I am just dismissing your claim that acupuncture is far superior than traditional medicine.

(Edited)Well I trust 4,000+ years of practice just as much as decades of addictive opioids and methadones myself though I think both have obvious uses. To sit and say there is no proof acupuncture is effective I think is a far stretch. As far as chemicals, I'm not saying they don't work but they are not a cure as John was insinuating. This is simply a difference in philosophy not a reason for @The Thriller to go on a hate filled tirade. This is a different debate than the lie gullible people like Thriller and others are pushing that he's completely hated medicine though that's not even close to what he said.

Edit: I'll take a hydrocodone for severe pain over acupuncture any day of the week as it's easier. That's not the point though. The point is that Stockton is not hating on modern medicine like the propaganda and hate people like Thriller are pushing. Nowhere did he state he's against all medicine like is being lied about. We can debate medical practices all day.

 

[Eminence]

From what I have seen (and saying it works or doesn't is a vast oversimplification) it appears that there are some completely un-understood benefits to acupuncture for treating some conditions, however, I haven't seen any real studies that compare it to traditional Western medicine. It seem to be good for chronic pain more than anything else, especially the kinds that the Drs also can't find a specific cause for, at least from a quick glance at these results.

Acupuncture: Effectiveness and Safety

Information about acupuncture, including its safety and effectiveness in treating pain and other conditions.

www.nccih.nih.gov

My quack theory is it just raises pain tolerance with repeated stabbing.

 

[Jaymz]

Abusing chemicals obviously isn’t beneficial.

You can also abuse your diet, upsetting hormone balances, beneficial gut bacteria leading to the gateway of illnesses.

Exercise isn’t just important for muscle loss prevention, and functionality.

I would say the best benefit is often overlooked. Your lymphatic (immune) system.
Lymphatic fluid doesn’t circulate on its own.
The lymphatic system DEPENDS on muscle contractions and your heart rate to help the fluid flow to the capillaries and lymph nodes. (These cleanse the impurities out of your system)

When you are born you have anywhere between 400-1,000 lymph nodes with over 1/2 of them located in you abdomen.

The fewest amount of lymph nodes are in the legs. If you’ve had any sort of surgery, they could have even removed some of your lymph nodes.

Since learning this, I’ve incorporated seated leg-press into my routine twice over with variations. (Leg contractions, elevated feet for increased lymphatic fluid return)

Obviously anything involving legs is going to help you feel great. Running, cycling, swimming,

 

[Jaymz]

Physical and athletic therapy is based on science. Acupuncture is not..

Oooooo. Acupuncture is actually.

where did I say anything negative about physiotherapy? I am just dismissing your claim that acupuncture is far superior than traditional medicine.

I disagree with this statement.

Let me do some acupressure on you. (No needles bro) and feel your body change.

 

[Jaymz]

My quack theory is it just raises pain tolerance with repeated stabbing.

This is really funny!

Acupuncture and acupressure are usually directed to particular points where muscles tend to stress and lock up. But you’re basically right.

When pressure is applied to a trigger point it helps oxygen, water, and nutrients flow back into the muscle.

There has been some recent studies in 2019 about the myofascial tissue. This is a sheeth like tissue that covers all your muscles, and spans your entire body.
Often discarded to the side during surgery to access the muscles underneath. We used to think it was nothing, now we know it’s everything.

Healthy myofascial tissue has elasticity of about 75%

When you aren’t active this tissue will tighten up to about 50%, so it feels like you’re wearing a tight jacket that doesn’t fit you. Reducing your overall range of movement and giving you that ”Chronic pain” everyone is talking about.